[Arctic_Menace]

$1:

cause you cant have freedom of speech with out the right to bear arms.

Actually, you can.

I'm sure if you look hard enough, you will find tonnes of instances in history where people have not had the right to bear arms or even have free speech, yet chose to do so...

[ManifestDestiny]

most goverments over time will make all of your rights, into privliages, Here in the USA they are doing that with the 2nd ammendment. if they can acheive blocking this ammendment they can do anything they want and we no longer have our free society that our founders envisioned.


I know most people talk about how Bush has taken away our freedoms. Habus corpus is the big one everyone talks of.

The Clintons took it away in the 90's after Oklahoma city and no one said shit then.

[ManifestDestiny]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

$1:

cause you cant have freedom of speech with out the right to bear arms.

Actually, you can.

I'm sure if you look hard enough, you will find tonnes of instances in history where people have not had the right to bear arms or even have free speech, yet chose to do so...

yeah you could look you wont find it. As a matter of fact most countries the frist thing they did before taking over the goverment took all of the common folks guns away. (they let the politicians and rich people keep them like in Canada and NY)

[Benoit]

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

most goverments over time will make all of your rights, into privliages, Here in the USA they are doing that with the 2nd ammendment. if they can acheive blocking this ammendment they can do anything they want and we no longer have our free society that our founders envisioned.


I know most people talk about how Bush has taken away our freedoms. Habus corpus is the big one everyone talks of.

The Clintons took it away in the 90's after Oklahoma city and no one said shit then.

A state needs a whole army to keep at bay other states. It is not with a few guns that you will reason a state.

[ManifestDestiny]

Benoit Benoit:

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

most goverments over time will make all of your rights, into privliages, Here in the USA they are doing that with the 2nd ammendment. if they can acheive blocking this ammendment they can do anything they want and we no longer have our free society that our founders envisioned.


I know most people talk about how Bush has taken away our freedoms. Habus corpus is the big one everyone talks of.

The Clintons took it away in the 90's after Oklahoma city and no one said shit then.

A state needs a whole army to keep at bay other states. It is not with a few guns that you will reason a state.

The british said that about the 13 colonies too.

The north said that about the South in 1860. so on snd so on

Never under estimate the will of a few determined people.

[Benoit]

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

Benoit Benoit:

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

most goverments over time will make all of your rights, into privliages, Here in the USA they are doing that with the 2nd ammendment. if they can acheive blocking this ammendment they can do anything they want and we no longer have our free society that our founders envisioned.


I know most people talk about how Bush has taken away our freedoms. Habus corpus is the big one everyone talks of.

The Clintons took it away in the 90's after Oklahoma city and no one said shit then.

A state needs a whole army to keep at bay other states. It is not with a few guns that you will reason a state.

The british said that about the 13 colonies too.

The north said that about the South in 1860. so on snd so on

Never under estimate the will of a few determined people.

Democracy is the will of a majority.

[C.M. Burns]

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

As a matter of fact most countries the frist thing they did before taking over the goverment took all of the common folks guns away. (they let the politicians and rich people keep them like in Canada and NY)

Really? Gosh, I didn't know that. When did that happen in Canada? How did they do that?

[ManifestDestiny]

C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

As a matter of fact most countries the frist thing they did before taking over the goverment took all of the common folks guns away. (they let the politicians and rich people keep them like in Canada and NY)

Really? Gosh, I didn't know that. When did that happen in Canada? How did they do that?

you should look up who is allowed to carry a pistol fulltime in Canada you would be shocked.

Remember its not gun control its PEOPLE CONTROL!

[Benoit]

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

As a matter of fact most countries the frist thing they did before taking over the goverment took all of the common folks guns away. (they let the politicians and rich people keep them like in Canada and NY)

Really? Gosh, I didn't know that. When did that happen in Canada? How did they do that?

you should look up who is allowed to carry a pistol fulltime in Canada you would be shocked.

Remember its not gun control its PEOPLE CONTROL!

States exist for security reasons.

[Chumley]

alana alana:

Survival of the fittest; is that what you advocate, Chumley?
Not a bad idea.
Everyone surely has a right to the necessities of life. As for priveleges, they can be granted, but perhaps should be taken away when they are abused.

Not what I advocate, just what the definition is to my mind.

[Benoit]

Chumley Chumley:

alana alana:

Survival of the fittest; is that what you advocate, Chumley?
Not a bad idea.
Everyone surely has a right to the necessities of life. As for priveleges, they can be granted, but perhaps should be taken away when they are abused.

Not what I advocate, just what the definition is to my mind.

Humans are doomed if they cannot recognize that natural resources belongs to humanity as a whole.