[CAGERATTLER]

I guess they haven't given a billion away just yet!!! I thought this was a done deal when in fact the Tories were just acting like it was a done deal. You know like they tried to fool everybody into believing it cost 2 billion just to register guns in this country!

WOW WHAT NEXT!


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... ional/home

In recent days, financial analysts and lumber industry officials have suggested that U.S. and Canadian trade officials are so far apart on key issues that the deal could be in jeopardy.

Industry sources say they have been told by federal officials that the negotiations are stalled and will not resume until June 19, just three days before the House of Commons rises June 22 for a pause of nearly three months.

The Tories had been trying to finalize the timber deal before the summer break, so that the Prime Minister could celebrate the feat when he travels to Washington to meet with U.S. President George W. Bush at the White House in early July.

[Arrow]

Doan werry. They'll fine a way to give it away and more.

I have faith in Stephen!

[hwacker]

Hey cagey it's a done deal, move on. and i mean move on.

[ridenrain]

It's a framework and details still need to be ironed out.
At least we're talking and making progress.
At least our leader is talking with the US leader, not calling him a bastard.
BC is over 50% of that deal and Campbell won't make a deal that's not good for BC. Ontario and Quebec were bitching but that's what they always do.

[Arrow]

Check yer quotes, boy. Leader never called him a bastard. Neither did Carolyn Parrish. Peace in our time, eh?

[Wada]

hwacker hwacker:

Hey cagey it's a done deal, move on. and i mean move on.

In the little bit of mind (imagination) you have replace Stephen's mug with his mentors.

[hwacker]

Wada Wada:

hwacker hwacker:

Hey cagey it's a done deal, move on. and i mean move on.

In the little bit of mind (imagination) you have replace Stephen's mug with his mentors.

Suck it up Lib, Your cause (lifestyle) is loosing ground everyday.

[ridenrain]

Slight point.
All sorts of diplomatic or simply arogant things happened and there were no apologies or sacking. How long did it take to phone after 9/11?
Cretien & Martin were always more pre-occupied with them staying in power than doing the right thing. The US saw it and now Canadians see it. The Liberals will never be able to run gov. like that ever again, and every Canadian voter is the better for it.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Slight point.
All sorts of diplomatic or simply arogant things happened and there were no apologies or sacking. How long did it take to phone after 9/11?
Cretien & Martin were always more pre-occupied with them staying in power than doing the right thing. The US saw it and now Canadians see it. The Liberals will never be able to run gov. like that ever again, and every Canadian voter is the better for it.

Fucking bollocks.

The Libs responded admirably to the US during 9/11 and were spit in the eye for it.

All your BS about the Libs interested in nothing but doing things that kept them in power can be defeated easily.

They did the worst possible thing for a gov't wanting to stay in power and the best thing for all Canadians. They eliminated the deficit and paid down the debt. They could have easily kept the conservative tradition of 20+ billion dollar deficits and simply threw money at the provinces, military, healthcare, etc. They could have made everybody happy at the cost of handing down an unmanagable debt to us directly if not our children.

Not only did bush snub our entire country, the country that took in thousands of his stranded countrymen but he extended no gratitude to our very quick and solid response to his request for assistance in Afganistan.

Chretien & Martin, while not perfect gave Canada solid leadership far beyond what Harper will every be capable of.

Every Canadian voter already knows this or else when things turned rough they would have done to the Liberals what they did to the PC party back in '93.

Sorry for your luck but thats just how it is. Get over it.

[RUEZ]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Chretien & Martin, while not perfect gave Canada solid leadership far beyond what Harper will every be capable of.

I know you didn't mean this as a joke, but it sure comes across as such.

[DerbyX]

RUEZ RUEZ:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Chretien & Martin, while not perfect gave Canada solid leadership far beyond what Harper will every be capable of.

I know you didn't mean this as a joke, but it sure comes across as such.

I feel the same way whenever RR goes on one of his little anti-Liberal tirades.

[ridenrain]

DerbyX DerbyX:

The Libs responded admirably to the US during 9/11 and were spit in the eye for it.

We did what was needed, what any neighbor would do, but how long did it take to go see the Prez and show solidarity? I'm not saying that we needed to jump to whatever tune he was playing but to go look at the hole, and say something other than the usual derogitory crap that we were dishing out. We're the #1 trade and longest, closest relative so we need be seen to be there when nessesary.

Please elaborate on spit in the eye.
The US was realing from a huge, unexpedcted attack and we were weeks late. Reguardless of politics, we should have been there first and foremost.

As for what's being called you're joke:

$1:

DerbyX wrote:
Chretien & Martin, while not perfect gave Canada solid leadership far beyond what Harper will every be capable of.

Ay least you admitted they were not perfect which is the most damning you've ever been. Good first step. Let's hope this is one journy to reality for you.

[ridenrain]

A whole lot of people stuck on planes that were prevented from landing would be very upset without the aid of Canada, that day. We were there and we did what we needed to do but you must admit that relations between our 2 countries have never been worst.
..and they were the worst so the Libs could make political hay.
Possibvly the most short sited reason.

[ridenrain]

I didn't say that, nor would I confront a grieving family when one of their sons died because they did something stupid. It'd not the time and place to do so.

This is about the softwood deal. Let's leave it at that.

[Canadian_Mind]

Agreed. But I have to say that we are still getting screwed in the end. We lose 1 billion dollars to american companies because we have a better system than they do. While our guys pay less, there is also way more restrictions on logging than in america.

What will happen the day when Yankistan has no logs left to log? Will they lower price so they can charge us tariffs because of unfairness in our wealth again?