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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:23 am
 


surpirse surprise its the conservatives fault, gm oshawa is losing 1000 jobs.

its all cause of the "buy japanese incentives" lol

im assuming he talking about the gas guzzing taxes. and that is causing Gm and Namerican cars makers to get their asses kicked. here in N.america.


well the REAL reason is gm and their buddies have had their R&D teams be populated with people who worship tim allen's tool time. MORE POWER

all the green incentives have been writing on the wall for at least a decade in moms fluorescent lipstick .....the japanese got it ,
the koreans got it,
even the germans got it .
... but we didnt.

heres North american logic ....gas prices go up , lets add More V8 to our line up?.

i guess the north american car companies need more of the other car companies execs running it.

the only part i even agree with him about is if "its not built here....... tax the shit out of it "

just look at the kinds of cars that are being bought and what they are. GM thinking defies logic ..

thus we have a buzz with a sound bite today.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:13 pm
 


more proof that kyoto is going to destroy the canadian economy.

just a simple gas guzzling tax has costed canadians 1000 jobs.

I'm not laughing.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:16 pm
 


I wonder if the gas guzzling tax is going to China instead of being handed over to these poor unemployed workers.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:25 pm
 


Buzz is a throwback but he's right that GM and the rest are not making cars people want to buy. It was North American carmakers who are to blame for squandering a whole industry and the birthright of future generations prosperity.

With this in mind, I'd like to see a boycott on cars made in China.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:36 pm
 


riden,

if you create a hamburger tax that causes less people to buy hamburgers, you don't blame the whole ordeal on our pending health and fitness crisis.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:41 pm
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
Buzz is a throwback but he's right that GM and the rest are not making cars people want to buy. It was North American carmakers who are to blame for squandering a whole industry and the birthright of future generations prosperity.

With this in mind, I'd like to see a boycott on cars made in China.


The boycott would last as long as it takes anyone to look at the price sticker.

Ona related note it's amazing how many think that we can just "boycott China." An effective Boycott China would probably cause the overnight collapse of the world's largets company--WalMart. It would have a severe and debilitating effect on the economy as people realized that what they used to get for five bucks now costs ten. Also, given Chinese holdings of teh US dollar, any retaliatory measure by them could exacerbate the situation.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:31 pm
 


Something to do with the collapse of the American sub-prime mortgage industry.

Slump in American house building...sales of pickups have fallen.

Buzz Hargrove was calling for the resignation of Jim Flaherty. :?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:50 pm
 


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surpirse surprise its the conservatives fault, gm oshawa is losing 1000 jobs.

its all cause of the "buy japanese incentives" lol

im assuming he talking about the gas guzzing taxes. and that is causing Gm and Namerican cars makers to get their asses kicked. here in N.america.


well the REAL reason is gm and their buddies have had their R&D teams be populated with people who worship tim allen's tool time. MORE POWER

all the green incentives have been writing on the wall for at least a decade in moms fluorescent lipstick .....the japanese got it ,
the koreans got it,
even the germans got it .
... but we didnt.

heres North american logic ....gas prices go up , lets add More V8 to our line up?.

i guess the north american car companies need more of the other car companies execs running it.

the only part i even agree with him about is if "its not built here....... tax the shit out of it "

just look at the kinds of cars that are being bought and what they are. GM thinking defies logic ..

thus we have a buzz with a sound bite today.


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ridenrain ridenrain:
Buzz is a throwback but he's right that GM and the rest are not making cars people want to buy. It was North American carmakers who are to blame for squandering a whole industry and the birthright of future generations prosperity.

With this in mind, I'd like to see a boycott on cars made in China.


The boycott would last as long as it takes anyone to look at the price sticker.

Ona related note it's amazing how many think that we can just "boycott China." An effective Boycott China would probably cause the overnight collapse of the world's largets company--WalMart. It would have a severe and debilitating effect on the economy as people realized that what they used to get for five bucks now costs ten. Also, given Chinese holdings of teh US dollar, any retaliatory measure by them could exacerbate the situation.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:02 pm
 


we just need to tax the bejesus out of the asian cars till the unions rear their ugly head over there too, it might take awhile though.

i mean with china being enthusiastic to cull its population whenever it can get away with it. they may try and create a few jimmy hoffas before it finally takes hold.

i nominate buzz to go over there and get them started :D


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:47 pm
 


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I wonder if the gas guzzling tax is going to China instead of being handed over to these poor unemployed workers.


If Dion and the LIBRANOs were in charge maybe.......

The latest developments in the GLOBAL WARMING SWINDLE and the general position of the tories on KYOTO makes that highly unlikely.

Before the chinks can send the "CHERI" it will have to do better on emmisions tests unless the Ontario LIBRANOs make an exception for them.

The display models of the CHERI were trucked, towed and pushed. The US EPA would not alow either ignition keys or batteries.......that's just how bad they are. The Governator won't be driving a CHERI soon...........


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:01 pm
 


its unfortuant these jobs have been lost but the reality is this is an ontario problem not a canada wide problem . when was the last time you heard about massive layoffs outwest ?

the ontario economy has some serious problems and the current provincial liberal government here hasn't helped . they have raised taxes and made this province less competitive .


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:17 pm
 


People have been railing over the Short-term thinking prevalent amongst US Corps since the '80's. Their current situation is a result of the Near Sightedness.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:43 pm
 


A little old fashioned ingenuity is called for. GM, Ford and Chryseler need to come up with cars for regular people, not just FOX news-watching, rednecks who like being "Ford Truck Men"... (Insert music by Toby Keith here... :roll: )

But it's almost a symptom of something larger. The slow response of the North American economy to competition from outside. I'd say a lot of that has to do with the overall baby-boomer mindset in the politics of policy from the USA and Canada. Can't include Mexico, they're run by drug cartels and big corporations, if the average Mexican spoke his mind, he'd be dog meat.

We just need to be as inventive as we are bitchy about this. We got all we need to compete and win, we just ain't using what we got, that's all. Taxation won't do anything except make the Liberals and NDP happy.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:14 pm
 


It's time for the big three to wake up and start making decent vehicles that last on the road after the warranties expire. I've always bought Fords or Chevs, no more- no way. Junk, recalls and did I mention junk. If they can't design and sell the customer a decent vehicle that's bad busness management.

Kevlarman it's no fun being a Ford redneck when you need a tow truck everytime you leave home. My F150 might look good on the back of one of those bad boys but it's getting damn expensive to maintain the Ford habit.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:41 pm
 


$1:
is an ontario problem not a canada wide problem




thats not true who do you think keeps the nation a float in equalization? alberta pays alot per capita but we just have the raw population numbers. if ontario goes down the shitter. all the oil in alberta wont help.them casue the taxes will have to come from somewhere.

somehow i dont think it would happen but to say albeta and the west is an island unto itself is kind of short sighted and absurd ontario couldnt do it if alberta tanked either... the 2 provinces need each other to keep confederation alive fiscally

or we could just go on our merry seperate ways but those are the only 2 options imho


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