[BeaverBill]

http://chandrasutra.typepad.com/chandra ... o_to_.html

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The primary objectives of deep integration include:

- A Common Security Perimeter and participation in the National Missile Defence program (initiatives that would place Canadian troops under U.S. command)
- A North American Identity Card

- A customs union with the United States (with similar trade policies and a common front at international trade negotiations)

- A common currency with the U.S. (abandoning the Canadian dollar)

- Harmonization of regulations and standards

- Immigration and refugee policies subjected to U.S. standards

- The administration of water through a Continental Water Strategy (which would result in our loss of control over our water)

- The administration of energy through a Continental Energy Strategy (which would result in a similar loss of control over energy)

- A health care system opened up to the American private health care providers.

* Source: The Council of Canadians

[EyeBrock]

Sounds like a North American version of the EU. I agree with a lot of the "closer harmony" ideas. What's the problem? Besides rampant anti-Americanism I can't see the horrendous issue that necessitates a ribbon campaign.
Frankly there are so many different ribbons out there I doubt anybody would even notice the CKA version.

Closer ties with the US economically, militarily and on immigration would be a good thing. It doesn’t mean we lose our way. Canadian nationalism needs to regroup and forge a closer national identity if we get worried about an EU style North American union. We are distinct but we are getting less so and it isn’t the yanks fault, we have allowed our culture to be placed second best over other people’s cultures. Cultural colonialism has taken over the host culture in Canada, that is the real threat to sovereignty.

[BeaverBill]

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Closer ties with the US economically, militarily and on immigration would be a good thing

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I don't think we needed to be so close that a Canadian decision is taken away from the Canadian taxpayer? It sounds defeatist to me.

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sovereignty
noun
the power of a country to control its own government:

Britian doesn't have an EU vision.... what's wrong with playing it that style? Canada sporting an inbetween? Can we get similar results? Have any Canadians been offered alternatives by Canadian politicians? Or should we hold up the white flag and allow a blatent giveaway of our country's opportunity to be better? Once you go in it'll be much tougher to get out.

I remember being told to always look before you jump.

[BeaverBill]

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We are distinct but we are getting less so and it isn’t the yanks fault, we have allowed our culture to be placed second best over other people’s cultures.

It's understandable to think in this way. Our OWN ELECTED LEADERS have sold us out. eg. when has Mul fuck'n runey NOT been bootlick'n when he comes out of his hid'n place IN the States to tell us what is best for the CANADIAN. Our proper taxpaid politicians have profited in preparing us for sale, and continue to do so until the ship finally sinks. When do you bail out of a ship/boat?? (possibly a question for the sailor) How do you think our military has gotten to such PATHETIC levels of under funding?? They prefer to put our military's lives at risk to fund their siverlined pockets to gold. My theory is that our Ben Dover (puta) politicians believe in only one thing......easy $$$.... otherwise how could have Canada have gotten to this state if our leaders were worried about CANADA. We've been fooled and patronized, now all will pay with the loss of face, pride, and (never forget and more important than the rest) Canadian family history. We'd be foolish to blame anyone else............but ...maybe....maybe... ourselves.

complacency is a social disease

Politicians are paid to work for Canada. Otherwise, Canada is being pimped as someone elses slut.

[ManifestDestiny]

Why do most of you blame Mulrooney fro Nafta it was signed into law by your main man Cheritien.

[BeaverBill]

mul fuck'n rony is the first innovative twat i can remember. It's like the first weed in the garden that you wished was pulled out.... now it's an epidemic.

[BartSimpson]

I think it is best not to confuse the matter of Deep Integration with missile defence.

It is absurd to consider that a Canadian PM would tell the US that Canada will not allow it to shoot down, say, a North Korean missile inbound on Seattle or Portland (something the North Koreans say they can do today if they want).

Would Canada make the question of saving millions of lives a question of sovereignty? Of course not.

But what about Washington, D.C. essentially reducing Canada to an American trust territory?

Canada would cease to exist in law and fact were this to come to pass. What it is to be 'Canadian' would disappear under an avalanche of incoming American influence.

I like Canada because it IS different from the USA.

Please keep it that way.

[Streaker]

Anyone Remember When Ethyl Corporation Sued The Canadian Government?

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In cases like Ethyl’s, international panels, not domestic courts, will have ultimate legal authority. No Canadian court will rule on whether the MMT ban violated NAFTA. Under NAFTA, Ethyl can pursue its case before an international tribunal where the proceedings are conducted in secret, the records are not publicly accessible and the decision is legally binding. The panel will be comprised of one person chosen by Ethyl, one by the Canadian government, and the third jointly by the first two appointees. If it loses, the Canadian government will have no recourse to appeal in domestic courts. Claims that go to international arbitration are often expedited; lawyers for Ethyl predict that the case will be settled by the end of the year.

The Ethyl case suggests that critics of NAFTA and GATT may have been correct in arguing that these agreements could pose a threat to national sovereignty. The likelihood that NAFTA, and other agreements like it, could restrict the ability of democratically elected governments to legislate on such matters as public health and safety and environmental protection was downplayed by many advocates of the agreement.

"Deep Integration" will only make things worse. We should reject it.