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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:03 pm
 


Biggles Biggles:
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The fact that you question the right of white supremacists to speak shows how far Canada is on the road to tyranny.
As opposed to what? Your country and the patriot act?


Does the Patriot act restrict freedom of speech in some way?
Is restriction of your freedom of speech the only road to tyranny?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:17 pm
 


Biggles Biggles:
Obviously Canadian hate speech laws are unclear to you because you don't understand them - but then again you're not very bright.


Actually, I'm mega-watt bright compared to you dullard.

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What makes them unclear is that they lack clarity - it is not my job to rewrite illegitmate laws.


See here dullard, what you ought to be doing is actually taking a "hate speech" law, reproducing it here and then highlighting those parts which are unclear, why they are unclear, what other interpretations could be made from those parts, how that is dangerous and, for bonus marks, what the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled and held regarding the laws.

Instead, all we get is you saying that circular reasoning works because circular reasoning works because circular reasoning works. Saying that something is unclear because it's unclear is the dullard's answer.

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Last year in Toronto, fourteen black male high school students were arrested for repeatedly raping and assaulting a white female high school student over a period of months. They were not charged with a hate crime in spite of the fact that they themselves admitted that the reason for the rape was that she was White, and they hated White people. Can there be any doubt that if White students had raped a Black student that the news media would have covered nothing else for the entire year?


Once again, I urge you, URGE you to understand Canadian laws before commenting as your ignorant opinion doesn't serve you well.

With WHICH "hate crime" should they be charged and do you understand the difference between being charged with a crime and having hate as a motivation being a factor for sentencing upon conviction?

There are two hate crimes in the Canadian Criminal Code. If you try just a wee bit of research, something which appears alien to you, you may be able to find them. Then you can read them. Then you can see why you're so totally wrong.

And hey WHERE IS YOUR REBUTTAL TO THE WHOLE LIBEL, FRAUD AND SHOUTING FIRE IN A CROWDED THEATER ATTACK ON YOUR COMPLETE FREEDOM OF SPEECH ARGUMENT? I noticed you didn't include it. Why is that?

P.S. You're still done.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:19 pm
 


Biggles Biggles:
Actually it's about as far as it can possibly be. Murdering some one is murdering them - not murdering them is not. I would have thought that even you could understand the distinction.


Actually, no it's not dipshit. Once again, I urge you to look at parties to the offence in the Canadian Criminal Code.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:21 pm
 


Biggles Biggles:
When I lived in Toronto I used to listen to a radio talk show host by the name of John Oakley in the mornings. This fellow was advertised by his station as being a purveyor of controversial, cutting edge political discourse. What was actually served up was luke-warm, bowdlerized pap. It wasn't the host's fault - you could see he wanted to tell the truth but couldn't for fear of upsetting someone. The whole point of talk radio is to say things that upset people - in this way serious topics are discussed rather than being left to fester.


So, you've made an assumption about the John Oakley show. Guess what? I listened to John Oakley when he was on CFRB and again now, although not often, that he's on 640. He's not at all controversial, nor bright, nor well-informed, nor does he push a single boundary. Sorry.

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Oakley's show was a pale reflection of, for example, the Rush Limbaugh show. Sirius radio receivers that are sold in Canada have had their play lists modified so that they can't receive Rush Limbaugh and other Conservative talk show hosts. This was done at the direction of the Canadian broadcasting authority.


Really? Could you please provide some evidence for that? Your blanket statements don't have any credibility.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:23 pm
 


Oh yeah Biggles, just so everybody on here knows what you didn't bother to answer when you were busy running like a beaten bitch:

I think you'd best be doing some more research. "Fightin' words" works in Canada too. If two people want to go punch each other with fists, that's perfectly legal here. If somebody says, "Hey, let's take this outside and fight it out" and the other punches him, still legal.

This applies above as well. If ALL forms of expression are allowed, what do you say to libel? Can the Globe and Mail print a front-page picture of you claiming you're a pedophilic arsonist? What would that "freedom of expression" do to you and your life? Would fraud still exist? Afterall, if Chrysler is free to lie, who knows what anybody would be getting when purchasing a car. Pharmaceutical companies could print ads extolling their products and lie like rugs about the harmful side-effects.

Getting back to the classic example of yelling fire in a crowded theater, knowing that some people would be trampled to death in the panic, does that still work in your boundless freedom of expression?

Hate speech in Canada doesn't include "insulting" somebody. From what I've read, you simply don't understand the legal framework in which Sections 318 and 319 of the Criminal Code work. You haven't read R v. Buzzanga nor have you read the seminal case R v. Keegstra. Simply put, you're an ignoramus exploiting your freedom of speech to look like a dipshit.

Thanks Captain Bigot! And when is being a member of an ethnic minority not "fashionable"?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:58 pm
 


Biggles Biggles:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Biggles Biggles:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Biggles Biggles:
The fact that you question the right of white supremacists to speak shows how far Canada is on the road to tyranny.
As opposed to what? Your country and the patriot act?


Does the Patriot act restrict freedom of speech in some way?
Is restriction of your freedom of speech the only road to tyranny?


I don't know - how many roads to tyranny is Canada on?
I see, so you are going to keep denying that the patriot act is taking your country down the road of tyranny. I guess it's a lot easier for you to criticize other countries.


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