[OPP]

Durandal Durandal:

Scrappy Scrappy:

In many countries, hard-line interpretations of the Islamic law allow people to be stoned to death, beheaded or have their limbs amputated.

And these countries include France, very soon Canada and USA.

In 2004, Ghofrane Haddaoui was stoned in Marseilles. In 2006, a high-school girl was stoned by her fellow classemates in her school's play-ground because she had not fallowed Ramadan - i.e. she had eaten during day-time (but she survived because she was able to flee) !

And they are also attacking Jewish women...

http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com ... an-in.html

And here are examples of what we can see on many walls in France (which the media won't show)...

< "Soon an Islamic state !"

< "Islam will be victorious"

Actually, there are OVER 750 SECTORS IN FRANCE where the French authorities don't even consider themselves sovereign and the police often does not even dare to penetrate.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/ ... 6490.shtml

Click this link for the maps of the 750+ small territories (called Zones Urbaines Sensibles) :

http://i.ville.gouv.fr/divbib/doc/chercherZUS.htm

More about Europe (especially France) from America Alone :

"There's Brussels, where Belgian police officers are advised not to be seen drinking coffee in public during Ramadan, and Malmö, where sweedish ambulance drivers will not go without police escort. It’s way too late to re-run the battle of Poitiers. When Martine Aubray, the mayor of Lille, daughter of former prime minister and EU bigwig Jacques Delors, and [then] likely presidential candidate in the post-Chirac era, held a meeting with an imam in Roubaix, the gentleman demanded that it take place on the edge of the neighbourhood – in recognition that his turf was Muslim territory which she was bound not to enter. Mme Aubry conceded the point, as more and more politicians will in the years ahead."

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Non-Muslims are excluded from the secretive court which is registered as a charity to receive British tax benefits.

"Charity" ! Hear that P_R ??? It's rather... "Charia" !

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The Muslim Council of Britain, whose spokesman Inayat Bunglawala said: “We believe one legal code should apply for all citizens of the UK. There is no place for multiple legal systems for people of different religious or ethnic backgrounds.”

^^^ In front of the camera. ^^^

>>> NOT in front of the camera (well... supposedly). <<<

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But one insider told the Daily Express that the Sharia court, which is run from the backroom of a Madrasa – an Islamic education centre – in Dewsbury is just one of “dozens” operating in Asian communities. And a leading Muslim commentator claimed similar courts exist in every major city across Britain.

For those who read French and are interested about the "madrasas" I suggest that you read this PDF :

PRÉSENTATION AUX ÉCOLES CORANIQUES (MADRASAS)

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Sheikh Yaqub admitted that in­troducing Sharia law into the UK has been his goal since moving to Britain from Paki­stan in the 1960s.

VLAN !



Here's an other quote from America Alone regarding the situation in the UK :

"After the carnage in Spain, Sheikh Omar Barki Mohammed told Lisbon's Publica magazine that a group of London Islamists were 'ready to lunch a big operation' on British soil. 'We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents', he said clarifying the ground rules. 'Only between Muslims and unbelivers. And the life of an unbeliver has no value.' The cleric added he expected to see the banner of Islam flying in Downing Street. 'I beleive one day that this is going to happen. Because this is my country, I like living here', he said. 'If they believe in democracy, who are they afraid of ? Let Omar Barki benefit from democracy !'

You think that sounds ridiculous ? The Islamic crescent flying over 10 Downing Street ? You'd be surprised how quickly the question of what flag should fly over governmental buildings can become an issue. In 2005, Anne Owers, Her majesty's chief inspector of prisons, banned the flying of the English national flag in English prisons on the grounds that it shows the cross of St. George, which was used by the Crusaders and so is offensive to Muslims. The Drivers and Licensing Agency has also banned the English flag from its offices. So has Heathrow Airport."



But the resistance is organising itself.

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But he insisted its main aim is to help repressed women who are trapped in bad or violent marriages and who dare not use British law.

Yeah riiiiiiiiiight.

Brenda Brenda:

In the UK state and church are separated. There will never be a law based on religion.

Of course every institue can make it's own rules, and every one who is willing can join. But law? No.

Just wait until the muzzis form the majority of the population (or even less), then we'll see what happens.

Patrick_Ross Patrick_Ross:

I will remind you, was also proven incorrect [...] I've already proven you wrong on the three basic arguing points of this thread

If anyone wants the proof of that, just click on the following link where you can see my 3 consecutives response to P_R (containing 99.99 % of the elements that he has decided not to respond to, simply because it would "waste his time" )... scroll down until you see a big finger pointing at you...

http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?nam ... c&start=45

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But you aren't smart enough to realize it. [...] I know you aren't smart enough to realize this

Oh my dear P_R, I love you.

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the victor [...] but that means I win.

OK, you win [go page 4 and scroll down to the finger to contemplate the glory of his "victory"], shut up now.

Hmmmmmm... Your posts kinda remind me of something... what could that be.. hmmmm????

[Durandal]

Oh dear OPP, your post reminds me of something two...

[youtube width=425 height=350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk0fK_TPhYY[/youtube]

[OPP]

Durandal Durandal:

Oh dear OPP, your post reminds me of something two...

[youtube width=425 height=350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk0fK_TPhYY[/youtube]

...and you're cirtenly no better than them.

[Patrick_Ross]

Durandal Durandal:

Patrick_Ross Patrick_Ross:

You'd really like to believe that, I'm sure.

I do beleive that.

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The problem is that all your sources are garbage, pure garbage.

Ho, I also think all of your (few) sources are pure garbage, but I also have destroyed all of them.

Riiiiiiight. If you say so. :rolll:

Anyone with a lick of sense following this thread will basically notice two things:

1.)You constantly regurgitated mostly the same sources over and over again -- mainly YouTube videos, and

2.)I destroyed every source you brought forward.

However comical your claims of "ultimate victory" may be, everyone following this thread knows who really won: myself.

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You can say my sources are "garbage", but you need to argue to back-up your claims (ie : prouve that my sources are "garbage").

I need to do nothing of the sort. Besides, idiots like yourself aren't smart enough to discern how poor your sources are to begin with. The sources you choose fit nicely into your hateful world view. You'll never divest yourself of them, or that hate. The point of arguing this with you is moot.

I will, however, continue to deny you what you so desparately want: the last word.

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Not only did I disprove pretty much every point you tried to raise

For everyone who is following this topic, I invite you, once again, to go back to page 4 and scroll down until you see a big finger pointing at you. The "disprouving" of all the facts I raised stopped there...

Yup. It sure did. It stopped there because I got fed up with you heaping garbage in your posts, and wasting hours of my time. You simply aren't worth the wasted time. It could be better spent writing this like this:

http://www.gateway.ualberta.ca/view.php?aid=7469

That, by the way, was read by more than 30,000 people. Whereas your hateful diatribes on Islam are being read by perhaps as many as 12. Remember what I said about occupying a more prominent place in the public eye than you?

Irrelevance, thy name is Durandal.

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I even turned your beloved Daniel Pipes against you

You demonstrated that Pipes and me don't agree 100 % of the time, true.

Pipes point was the fact that the Koran contains both tolerant and intolerant passages. I have demonstrated that I was right on that one with the deleting/deleted verses... to which your lack of knowledge on the matter only allows you to respond "it's garbage" .

But it goes furter that that, because your mistake of saying Pipes agrees you (contrary to me) allowed me to turn Pipes against YOU, don't remember ?

P_R also used Tariq Ramadan as a sourse to "disprouve" my facts [again, back to page 4/pointing finger to see how I debunked Tariq], but after that I turned Ramadan against P_R when he said that one of his claims was "LAUGHABLE AT BEST".

Almost all the claims you've made in this thread were laughable at best. Remember how easily I disproved your "Islam causes most of the world's conflicts" assertion? Easy as pie.

Meanwhile, the best you could come up with was some inane version of "well, so what if it was political? Muslims were there."

The funny thing was that you identified Daniel Pipes as one of the world's only experts on Islam. Then, when it was brought to your attention that Pipes agrees with me (not you), suddenly it was "well, Daniel Pipes doesn't know shit." Then I reminded you that you insisted he was one of the world's only experts on Islam. Then it was, "oh, he is... but he still doesn't know shit."

Hilarity, thy name is Durandal.

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Even worst, P_R said that Walid Shoebat is an expert, so I have profitted of the occasion to prouve that Shoebat DISAGREES with P_R and AGREES with me and Robert Spencer...

I also pointed out that individuals such as Shoebat don't hold a monopoly on Islam. There is still much more to be said.

Every Muslim that doesn't take up the mantle of terrorism is proof of that. You yourself admitted there are millions of them.

Now, look at this:

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Durandal Durandal:

TRAILER - ISLAM : WHAT THE WEST REALLY NEEDS TO KNOW

FULL MOVIE (FRENCH SUBTITLES)

ISLAM - DIFFERENT BEHAVIOR FOR DIFFERENT SITUATIONS

ISLAMIC CONSISTANCY

You don't get the hint, do you? If none of this was worth discussing the first time you posted it, why would it be suddenly worth discussing when you regurgitate it a dozen times?

Density, thy name is Durandal.

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Not bad, P_R (partially) turned ONE "expert" against me, then I prouved this expert wrong, then I turned THREE "experts" against him, and he is COMPLETELY unable to prouve ANY of these experts wrong. Heck, I'm an expert myself !

You read it here, folks: apparently watching YouTube videos all day makes you an "expert".

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And I will ignore even more of your garbage.

Keep ignoring, your just helping me out.

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See how easy that was?

Well of course, when the only thing you are able to do is say "I ignore you because your sources are garbage", it's not very hard to respond to my professionnal agrumentation by "all your sources are garbage".

Well, Durandal, I do ignore you, because your sources are garbage.

See how easy that is?

[Durandal]

To OPP : Why ? I don't invent crazy conspiracies, I just bring-up real events and facts.

Hey, I braught up the fact that the British national flag is gradually being out of the UK by fear of Islamists and that over 750 sectors of the Franch national territory are in Muslim hands, and you will label me as a nasty hetemonger/propagandist ???

Hey, if your head is sooooo deep in the sand that you can't even realise what is happening, better shut op than accuse me of racism.

[grainfedprairieboy]

OPP OPP:

...and you're cirtenly no better than them.

Don't bother OPP. This kid will kick the snot out of you for sure.

[Durandal]

Patrick_Ross Patrick_Ross:

1.) You constantly regurgitated mostly the same sources over and over again

Well I guess, you don't respond to them, so I post them back !

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2.) I destroyed every source you brought forward.

You destroed my sources ? Which ones ?

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like this:

http://www.gateway.ualberta.ca/view.php?aid=7469

Hérouville said there should be no clit-cutting and stoning in their village. Both already appened many times IN THE WEST. I don't see a problem.

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That, by the way, was read by more than 30,000 people.

BTW, Hérouville's people also gained respect from LOTS of people, especially from France.

Recentry the Parti Québécois played the "I-love-dhiminnitude" card while the ADQ played an other, guess which one Quebeckers prefered.

Action...

< from journal Sada Al-Mashrek of Montréal

Result...

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Almost all the claims you've made in this thread were laughable at best. Remember how easily I disproved your "Islam causes most of the world's conflicts" assertion? Easy as pie.

Almost, almost.

I make reference to my post on page 4 (starting with a pointing finger) once again.

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The funny thing was that you identified Daniel Pipes as one of the world's only experts on Islam. Then, when it was brought to your attention that Pipes agrees with me

And YOU made the same thing with Tariq Ramadan, Walid Shoebat, AND Daniel Pipes.

What an hypocrite you are.

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I also pointed out that individuals such as Shoebat don't hold a monopoly on Islam.

I can say the same thing for Pipes, dumbass.

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You read it here, folks: apparently watching YouTube videos all day makes you an "expert".

It makes me an expert enough you can't even challenge my claims on jihad and koranic tolerance/intolerance, the only thing you can say is that it's "garbage".

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Well, Durandal, I do ignore you, because your sources are garbage.

See how easy that is?

What a children you are.

You are ignoring because you are ignorant.

Again, if you are such a winner, reply to this :

>>> The letter to the people of Oman that proves Muhammad went to war to convert the infidels.

>>> The deleting/deleted verses that makes irrelevant ALL the tolerant verses in the Koran.

>>> The defenition of jihad given by the 4 main schools of law of Sunni Islam that straightforwardly order holy war against the unbelivers/"kuffars".

>>> The defenition of jihad made by the top of Shia Islam, Ayatollah Khomeini, which clearly states that "Islam wants to conquer the whole world".

OK, keep ignoring, I'v presented the arguments, you can declare them as "garbage" without arguing... not my problem.

[ridenrain]

Is it wrong to love the soundtrack?

[grainfedprairieboy]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Is it wrong to love the soundtrack?

Try this one on for size.

[youtube width=425 height=350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4ovB40lSqg[/youtube]

[Patrick_Ross]

Durandal Durandal:

To OPP : Why ? I don't invent crazy conspiracies, I just bring-up real events and facts.

Hey, I braught up the fact that the British national flag is gradually being out of the UK by fear of Islamists and that over 750 sectors of the Franch national territory are in Muslim hands, and you will label me as a nasty hetemonger/propagandist ???

Hey, if your head is sooooo deep in the sand that you can't even realise what is happening, better shut op than accuse me of racism.

Sounds a lot like CAGERATTKER, Maggiemygosh and co.

"I only state facts and truth!"

[Durandal]

OK P_R,

OPP accuses me of spreading hate against a minority like we used to do against Jews, then I post a video showing him that the exact same propaganda against Jews is widely used today by his islamist friends, then he says "you're cirtenly no better than them".



P_R, this is your last chance to prove me wrong ; respond to this :

>>> The letter to the people of Oman that proves Muhammad went to war to convert the infidels.

>>> The deleting/deleted verses that make irrelevant ALL the tolerant verses in the Koran.

>>> The defenition of jihad given by the 4 main schools of law of Sunni Islam that straightforwardly order holy war against the unbelivers/"kuffars".

>>> The defenition of jihad made by the top of Shia Islam, Ayatollah Khomeini, which clearly states that "Islam wants to conquer the whole world".

For the rest, the video grainfedprairieboy posted sums it up nicely.

[Patrick_Ross]

Ooooh. My "last chance" to repond to your garbage.

I think you know what you can do with your "last chance".

Personally, I'm not wasting any more time on you.

[Durandal]

Well... it boils down to what I said about 10 posts ago :

seems like P_R can't go on anymore, so I guess it will stop here...

[Patrick_Ross]

Certainly, you'd like to think so. The truth is much different.

I've already beaten you, I'm done with you, and this does in fact end here.

[Elvis]

Durandal is not a raciste he hate everyone equally.