[CanadianJeff]

exactaly we are in a way Wal-Marting and Tim Hortining ourselves into lower wage jobs across the board.

Our buying habits and spending habits determine where the needs are with employment.

[EyeBrock]

Brenda Brenda:

When companies expect a degree in Business Administration and/or a certificate Applied Business Technology (among other credentials) and are willing to pay $13-16/hr...

A friend of mine has a legal assistant diploma (and a $20,000 study loan) and works as a legal assistant for $13/hr. She is lucky she is single and lives with her granddad.

I think your friend either needs to move or look at another, more profitable career choice.

I moved from two other provinces and three cities within Ontario looking for work. Gotta go where the jobs are!

[Brenda]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Brenda Brenda:

When companies expect a degree in Business Administration and/or a certificate Applied Business Technology (among other credentials) and are willing to pay $13-16/hr...

A friend of mine has a legal assistant diploma (and a $20,000 study loan) and works as a legal assistant for $13/hr. She is lucky she is single and lives with her granddad.

I think your friend either needs to move or look at another, more profitable career choice.

I moved from two other provinces and three cities within Ontario looking for work. Gotta go where the jobs are!

I totally agree with you!!
It's not always that easy tho, due to personal circumstances...
People are born and raised here, have lived here all their lifes, don't know anything else, and apparently, put up with it.

The job above, with the degrees, is one I applied for. It's a casual job too. I'm sorry, but if you want a casual typist, and you pay $13/hr, shouldnt you just be glad the applicant can TYPE??? Or am I arrogant now?

[Proculation]

CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:

Proculation Proculation:

who thinks the future is in low wage services ?

I have always been told to study a lot to get a good paying job. Low wage jobs are for people who quit school.

That used to be the case. Now many people in university and post secondary education are finding it very difficult to get a job with some degrees. You just can't find a job with an English or Philosphy major anymore.

The truth is that tuition is growing too and the cost of living has gone up. There's more then one factor involved to how "low income" someone is.

Well, I hope that someone majoring in english doesn't expect a high wage job in 2010...

[KorbenDeck]

Really if you want to reduce low wage service industries simply slash the amount of immigrants allowed into Canada, and put tariffs on countries like China that do not have labour laws and wages near that of what Canada does. Less immigrant into Canada means there will be a shortage of workers, which means employers will be forced to compete for employees, which will also make employers more likely to invests in retaining employees. Just make sure there are laws (ie taxes) in place for companies that try to outsource to 3rd world countries or Asia.

Only immigrants we allow into Canada should be highly trained and educated and their qualification needs to be recognized BEFORE they come to Canada. Ideally they should have a job waiting for them in Canada before we allow them in.

[Brenda]

KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:

Really if you want to reduce low wage service industries simply slash the amount of immigrants allowed into Canada, and put tariffs on countries like China that do not have labour laws and wages near that of what Canada does. Less immigrant into Canada means there will be a shortage of workers, which means employers will be forced to compete for employees, which will also make employers more likely to invests in retaining employees. Just make sure there are laws (ie taxes) in place for companies that try to outsource to 3rd world countries or Asia.

Only immigrants we allow into Canada should be highly trained and educated and their qualification needs to be recognized BEFORE they come to Canada. Ideally they should have a job waiting for them in Canada before we allow them in.

Immigrants allowed in nowadays ARE highly trained, UNLESS you count the family class immigrants. Skilled workers are... well, like it says, skilled. Credentals are recognized (and translated into English or French), and a lot of immigrants have to go back to school, to make their education Canadian. Highly educated people cannot just work in their field, if they have no Canadian experience (engineers, for example), doctors and dentists need to be retrained, even mechanics, whose credentials are recognized, have to go back to school or at least take an exam to obtain their Red Seal, even if the education or experience they have, is higher or more than the Red Seal certification asks for.

You keep talking about Canada, but I think you mean the big cities.

Just a fyi... Companies don't even respond to the people who apply from within their town, let alone from a town 50 kms away, or 500 (willing to relocate) let alone a foreigner they have to do paperwork for.
Seriously, I wonder if you know what you are talking about.

[ShepherdsDog]

Proculation Proculation:

CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:

Proculation Proculation:

who thinks the future is in low wage services ?

I have always been told to study a lot to get a good paying job. Low wage jobs are for people who quit school.

That used to be the case. Now many people in university and post secondary education are finding it very difficult to get a job with some degrees. You just can't find a job with an English or Philosphy major anymore.

The truth is that tuition is growing too and the cost of living has gone up. There's more then one factor involved to how "low income" someone is.

Well, I hope that someone majoring in english doesn't expect a high wage job in 2010...

Starbuck`s isn`t such a bad job

[kenmore]

Its the harper stimulus package.... Mcjobs

[ShepherdsDog]

keeps you in fries.

[EyeBrock]

Brenda Brenda:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Brenda Brenda:

When companies expect a degree in Business Administration and/or a certificate Applied Business Technology (among other credentials) and are willing to pay $13-16/hr...

A friend of mine has a legal assistant diploma (and a $20,000 study loan) and works as a legal assistant for $13/hr. She is lucky she is single and lives with her granddad.

I think your friend either needs to move or look at another, more profitable career choice.

I moved from two other provinces and three cities within Ontario looking for work. Gotta go where the jobs are!

I totally agree with you!!
It's not always that easy tho, due to personal circumstances...
People are born and raised here, have lived here all their lifes, don't know anything else, and apparently, put up with it.

The job above, with the degrees, is one I applied for. It's a casual job too. I'm sorry, but if you want a casual typist, and you pay $13/hr, shouldnt you just be glad the applicant can TYPE??? Or am I arrogant now?

That's just wrong! We pay our Co-Op students $14.28/hr!

[ShepherdsDog]

That's it? A buddy of mine who did a co-op at UVic was making $18 an hour, and this was in '93.

[EyeBrock]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

That's it? A buddy of mine who did a co-op at UVic was making $18 an hour, and this was in '93.

Apparently that's the going rate, plus we get a tax payroll rebate.....

[Bruce_the_vii]

KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:

Really if you want to reduce low wage service industries simply slash the amount of immigrants allowed into Canada, and put tariffs on countries like China that do not have labour laws and wages near that of what Canada does. Less immigrant into Canada means there will be a shortage of workers, which means employers will be forced to compete for employees, which will also make employers more likely to invests in retaining employees. Just make sure there are laws (ie taxes) in place for companies that try to outsource to 3rd world countries or Asia.

Only immigrants we allow into Canada should be highly trained and educated and their qualification needs to be recognized BEFORE they come to Canada. Ideally they should have a job waiting for them in Canada before we allow them in.

Yes

[andyt]

KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:

Really if you want to reduce low wage service industries simply slash the amount of immigrants allowed into Canada, and put tariffs on countries like China that do not have labour laws and wages near that of what Canada does. Less immigrant into Canada means there will be a shortage of workers, which means employers will be forced to compete for employees, which will also make employers more likely to invests in retaining employees. Just make sure there are laws (ie taxes) in place for companies that try to outsource to 3rd world countries or Asia.

Only immigrants we allow into Canada should be highly trained and educated and their qualification needs to be recognized BEFORE they come to Canada. Ideally they should have a job waiting for them in Canada before we allow them in.

I agree 100%.

[andyt]

Brenda Brenda:

and a lot of immigrants have to go back to school, to make their education Canadian. Highly educated people cannot just work in their field, if they have no Canadian experience (engineers, for example), doctors and dentists need to be retrained, even mechanics, whose credentials are recognized, have to go back to school or at least take an exam to obtain their Red Seal, even if the education or experience they have, is higher or more than the Red Seal certification asks for.

Which is why we should be putting more effort into training Canadians for those jobs instead of always trying to import people to do them.