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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:21 am
 


As much as I dislike Ezra Levant, I like what he has to say here...

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When did the NDP stop being the party of guys in hard hats and start being the party of environmentalist snobs at Starbucks?

I despise communism, but there is one aspect of it that I actually miss: The belief in industry.

As in, they loved factories. They loved development. They loved mining and forestry and building things.

They weren’t very good at it — the communist system was at odds with human nature; you can’t centrally plan an economy, you can’t command people to be inspired to live your blueprint — but they were crystal clear about their goals: An industrialized society with high productivity.

Admiring hard work — physical work, outdoors work, blue-collar work — isn’t a left-wing thing. In fact, it’s conservative.

Bizarrely, though, it’s not a big part of today’s NDP.

Exhibit A: Last week, the Saskatchewan NDP voted unanimously to oppose the Keystone XL pipeline project, a shovel-ready project that needs no government stimulus, that would not only create jobs in Saskatchewan in terms of the pipeline itself, but is necessary to export oil from Saskatchewan’s Bakken oil fields.

Those oil fields are why there is more conventional — that is, non-oilsands oil — production in Saskatchewan now than in Alberta.

It’s why Saskatchewan has the lowest unemployment rate in Canada.

In other words, labour is working. Men are building. Industry is industrializing. Developments are developing. Production is producing.

Some of that work is unionized. Some isn’t. But so what. It’s work. It’s very well-paid work. But the NDP — once the party of the working man — is against it?

It’s not just them. In British Columbia, their NDP just sent a unanimous letter to the federal regulatory review panel, opposing the Northern Gateway pipeline to the B.C. west coast.

So you’ve got the party of the unions coming out against jobs building pipelines, jobs loading and unloading tanker ships.

The party that once stood with forestry workers, sawmill workers, miners, rig hands — the folks who work hard, with their muscles and minds — has now been replaced with the party of downtown eco-activists, who have never done a physical day’s labour in their lives.

Sorry, we can’t all make a living selling Starbucks drinks to each other and texting to each other on our iPhones about how awful Stephen Harper is. Someone actually has to make stuff. Like iPhones. Someone has to bring that coffee to Vancouver. On a ship that is powered by heavy oil.

We can’t all live a metalife, just being intellectual and witty and great critics of things. Someone has to actually be a builder, a miner, a logger, a labourer. At least the communists valued labour — they worshipped it, actually.

Today’s NDP derides it, looks down its nose at it, demeans it, laughs at it, even though those are the real six-figure jobs in Canada — while the fancy kids, getting their degrees in urban studies and peace studies and vegetarian studies, will graduate qualified to do nothing but work at Starbucks.

The NDP is like a child who thinks electricity comes not from a hydroelectric dam or a coal-fired power plant or a nuclear reactor, but from “a plug in the wall.” They want the fruits of industry, without the industrialization. They want the wealth of work, without the work. And now they don’t even want others to do the work.

Can this change? There’s a chance. Thomas Mulcair, the federal NDP leader, now no longer uses the epithet “tar sands” to describe the oilsands. He has disavowed the more radical elements of his party that actually called for a shutdown of the industry.

Mulcair has yet to visit the oilsands — despite disparaging them for years. If he visits that town — a union town, a town where labour is working — and looks them in the eye, and listens for a moment before speaking, maybe he will relearn the nobility of real work that built his party.

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:55 am
 


Spot on. I was never a big fan of Ezra's either, sometimes yelling at my paper in frustration at some of his columns, but this one can't be faulted. Many good points are made about the continuing decline of the NDP as a whole.

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:40 pm
 


The NDP is not Communist.


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:54 pm
 


Yeah! The NDP should be all for short-term shovel swinging jobs, supertankers on the coast and exporting our resources raw so we get as few jobs as possible. What's wrong with them anyways?


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herbie herbie:
Yeah! The NDP should be all for short-term shovel swinging jobs, supertankers on the coast and exporting our resources raw so we get as few jobs as possible. What's wrong with them anyways?


Yea, with a recovering economy, who needs some well paying jobs and valuable work experience?

That's ok....the West doesn't forget and next election, the support that Jack garnered from the West will soon be squandered.


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OnTheIce OnTheIce:
That's ok....the West doesn't forget and next election, the support that Jack garnered from the West will soon be squandered.


Same goes with Quebec. They won't ride the orange wave next time, either.

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:51 pm
 


Yeah them valuable work experiences. Like investing in a digger and 2 weeks after the pipeline's through your area there's no more work, you forfeit and file for bankruptcy.
Good "conservative work experience".


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:56 pm
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
As much as I dislike Ezra Levant, I like what he has to say here...

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Sorry, we can’t all make a living selling Starbucks drinks to each other and texting to each other on our iPhones about how awful Stephen Harper is. Someone actually has to make stuff. Like iPhones. Someone has to bring that coffee to Vancouver. On a ship that is powered by heavy oil.


http://www.torontosun.com/2012/05/04/nd ... -its-roots


That's for sure. And we can't all work in the oilfields either. But making stuff? Don't make me laugh. The darlings of the conservatives have sent all those jobs overseas. Does Levant really think iphones are made in Canada? Of course in his Canada maybe they would be, because most people would be working at shit paying jobs while the 1% reap the profits. And that ship bringing coffee to Vancouver certainly ain't got no Canadian crew, nor is it registered in Canada.


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That's for sure. And we can't all work in the oilfields either. But making stuff? Don't make me laugh. The darlings of the conservatives have sent all those jobs overseas. Does Levant really think iphones are made in Canada? Of course in his Canada maybe they would be, because most people would be working at shit paying jobs while the 1% reap the profits. And that ship bringing coffee to Vancouver certainly ain't got no Canadian crew, nor is it registered in Canada.


So your blaming the "darlings of the conservatives" for our manufacturing industry going overseas? All the blame falls on corporate Canada?


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:38 pm
 


$1:
NDP loses touch with its roots

Was that before or after they lost touch with reality?


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:00 pm
 


I like some socialism in our Canada. I would only like to see a national energy program that would benefit all Canadians, and not just the oil companies. I would hope the NDP would renegotiate NAFTA and end the SPP. But I think I am just dreaming.


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:40 pm
 


It depends on how you define socialism.


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:46 pm
 


And I think we should refine it and make actual skilled high paying jobs that last for decades not weeks, ship the gas to whoever the hell wants to buy it and forget one pipeful of guck and another full of complete poison running through my backyard.
Oooh, yeah, our industry runs on oil. Too fucking bad their not getting a goddam drop out of the two mentioned pipelines. NONE is fo domestic use and the higher export price will mean higher prices for YOU.


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:55 pm
 


I agree Herbie. It's crazy that we don't have a decent sized refinery in a country with the some of the biggest deposits of oil on the planet.

If the government should interfere on free markets, this would be an area that I think Canadians of all political stripes could get on board with.


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EyeBrock EyeBrock:
I agree Herbie. It's crazy that we don't have a decent sized refinery in a country with the some of the biggest deposits of oil on the planet.

If the government should interfere on free markets, this would be an area that I think Canadians of all political stripes could get on board with.


The problem isn't a lack of capability in Canada, its excess capability in the US. Texas has half a dozen refineries with nothing to refine, so the oil majors want to ship it there to refine, instead of building more refineries here. That's simply because refineries cost a billion or two dollars to build and they are looking at the bottom line.

FYI, we have a fair number refineries in Canada (close to 20). Edmonton itself has two, and the Scotsford in Ft. Sask is another in the Capital region. Before the recession, several other upgrader/refineries were planned, but they are now on the back-burner.


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