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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:14 am
 


Why would anybody bother with a sycophantic website? Count the posts, there are FAR more anti-canadian government postings than there are anti american comments. In fact in the last two days we saw several posts about how the US is far better on the environmental front than Canada. <br /> <br /> I come here for CANADIAN news. The only ongoing american remarks have been against american imperialism-of which the US itself is the world's largest provider (of anti american demonstrations I mean), far more than Canada. And softwood lumber, where the US is pretty blatantly defying international courts-why would ANYBODY suck up to that? Go to rural BC and go door to door and read them your letter, I know some now unemployed foresters who would just LOVE to have somebody close by with such a view, but not for any reasons healthy for you.<br /> <br /> As far as 'top universities and top supercomputers', that's just personal opinion and means squat. You might as well say we need the worlds largest super-silo's, or world's biggest pyramids. In fact, that worked great for Eygpt's and Las Vegas' tourism, let's build even BIGGER pyramids. For my money I'd rather see MORE universities with more canadians in them. Research is research, my wife works in cancer research and she has made more discoveries than ANY of the big labs that her company is associated with in the states, and THEY have all the big names with all the letters-and she doesn't even have a Phd. <br /> <br /> And of course we already know that the US doesn't provide any more medical research than europe, and most of it's wealth is used in marketing, maintaining patents, and enhancements on old medicine-and keeping medicines from people. Most of the biggest discoveries have all come from publicly funded universities, just like in Canada, but are now being sold off to industry-something that is also being fought far harder in the US than here in Canada. So again, it depends what is meant by 'america'. There is official federal policy, then there is what virtually every poll shows americans want-which is usually the complete opposite, much like Canada. Canadian research actually produces as many innovations as Canada consumes from other countries in medicine-go look it up. <br /> <br /> America is also not a race, there's virtually no court or recognized body that would maintain it was, and there are plenty of white and black fellas who would cut out your heart for saying that they are the same race. If your comments were true, then of course Brazilians are being 'segregationist' for not wanting to be part of Venezuela, and France is being 'segregationist' for not wanting to be part of Belgium.<br /> <br /> One remark was confusing, the 'under Bush' comment. 'Under Bush' is primarily descriptive as I would assume that 'no to deeper integration' would simply change to 'under insert President's name here', if the deeper integration issue is to continue-as I assume it will.<br /> <br /> As for american education it is structurally similar to Canada's. Canada has many well known academics-many of whom were run out of the US for 'unpopular research'. They simply aren't all at one school, like in the states where the ivy league schools can obviously pay for the best. In actual fact, in the science's a Master's degree in Canada is considered the equavalent of a Phd in most of the states. This is why so many canadians had the 'brain drain' opportunity. In Canada a Masters degree (in science, the area I know about) means almost nothing if you aren't continuing to a Phd or switching to another field (that's changing as research becomes more privatized). However, in the states a Masters from Canada is highly sought after-as I know from personal experience as well as from industry studies. With one tenth the population Canada easily has one tenth the academic standing of the US. Even with a small, lousy department here in __________, in __________, I can name three professors with international recognition attached to their name. As I said, they just aren't all at one school, therefore no one school stands out. If a country prefers, they can put all their eggs in one basket, that's their perogative-but only so many can get into Ivy league schools.<br /> <br /> So while it MAY be foolish to turn down a chance to go to Harvard, it certainly isn't foolish to turn down the chance to go to Pittsburgh's Inner City Trade School, or some such thing. I would probably agree that if you have the money and Harvard invites you, yes, you would be stupid to turn them down.<br /> <br /> <br /> So finally, as a person who is ACTIVELY trying to bring to Canada what I truly think is great about america, namely citizens initiatives, public participation in policy formulation, local ballot initiatives, local and state referenda, more elected and fewer nominated officials, an elected senate, and more potential for citizen involvement, and more citizen demands for participation-I think time is better spent simply FINDING the positives about the US and posting them in the forum or as news, which anybody is welcome to do. <br /> <br /> Obviously if you think what is great about the US is that they have supercomputers, ivy league schools, ignore international laws and stomp hell out of anybody they like, well, you'll find little accomodation here-and not nearly as much as you'd expect even in the states. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />





PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:38 am
 


Your reply is basically one massive contradiction. <br /> <br /> As for your 'wife' discovering 'cures' for cancer. Alright, tell me what 'cure' she's discovered lately. I don't think there's anything wrong in your divulging information that doesn't exist. <br /> <br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Marcarc] Why would anybody bother with a sycophantic website? Count the posts, there are FAR more anti-canadian government postings than there are anti american comments. In fact in the last two days we saw several posts about how the US is far better on the environmental front than Canada. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Obviously then majority rules huh? IN reality, that's bullshit. Going to<br /> such anti-U.S. websites like rabble.ca, basically those tards are praying for another September 11th.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE] I come here for CANADIAN news. [/QUOTE] <br /> <br /> What!<br /> <br /> Are you kidding? Alright, so the latest 'newspiece' which is the several years old CONSPIRACY THEORY that the U.S. demolished one of their own WTC buildings.<br /> <br /> The left has been doing everything they can do try and discredit Al-Qaeda's actions and to place the real blame on the U.S. Everything from George Bush actually PLANNING the 9/11 attacks to the Pentagon orchestrating the attacks.<br /> <br /> If reading absolute utter BULLSHIT is your idea of 'Canadian News', then keep gobbling it up buddy.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE]And softwood lumber, where the US is pretty blatantly defying international courts-why would ANYBODY suck up to that? [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I dunno, Canada's bullshit price controls on pharmaceuticals and Canada's blatant knockoffs of American made drugs is fun stuff too.<br /> <br /> Imagine that. The U.S. spends BILLIONS in R&D, and Canada simply COPIES the drugs.<br /> <br /> This news of course gets really only a blip on the radar.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE] As far as 'top universities and top supercomputers', that's just personal opinion and means squat. You might as well say we need the worlds largest super-silo's, or world's biggest pyramids.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Alright, you've lost this debate. You seriously are just too fucking stupid to debate with. I mean, how can you look at such fields like MEDICINE and SCIENCE/TECHNOLOGY and compare it to TOURISM?<br /> <br /> Case closed. IF this is the BEST that 'vivelecanada.ca's got, then I am right, this website is nothing more than a home for REDNECK DUMBASS RACIST CANUCK STUPID FUCKS.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE]Research is research, my wife works in cancer research and she has made more discoveries than ANY of the big labs that her company is associated with in the states, and THEY have all the big names with all the letters-and she doesn't even have a Phd. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> And what 'discoveries' did she make? Like did she 'discover' how to flush the toilet? Or that those tampons are meant to go into the first hole not the second?<br /> <br /> 'Cancer discovery' my achin' ass. Unless you give some evidence to this, then you are basically a BALD FACED LIAR.<br /> <br /> Live with it bitch.<br />


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[QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> [QUOTE] I come here for CANADIAN news. [/QUOTE] <br /> <br /> What!<br /> <br /> Are you kidding? Alright, so the latest 'newspiece' which is the several years old CONSPIRACY THEORY that the U.S. demolished one of their own WTC buildings.<br /> <br /> The left has been doing everything they can do try and discredit Al-Qaeda's actions and to place the real blame on the U.S. Everything from George Bush actually PLANNING the 9/11 attacks to the Pentagon orchestrating the attacks.<br /> <br /> If reading absolute utter BULLSHIT is your idea of 'Canadian News', then keep gobbling it up buddy.[/QUOTE] <br /> <br /> It's no longer a 'theory' when there is evidence to support it. Didn't read the evidence, did you?<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> I dunno, Canada's bullshit price controls on pharmaceuticals and Canada's blatant knockoffs of American made drugs is fun stuff too.<br /> <br /> Imagine that. The U.S. spends BILLIONS in R&D, and Canada simply COPIES the drugs.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Hahaha! How uninformed you are! Most Pharm companies in Canada are US owned! They can't rip-off their own intellectual property. Even with price controls, they seem to be doing pretty well, considering they spend far less on R&D than they do on ADVERTISING.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> Case closed. IF this is the BEST that 'vivelecanada.ca's got, then I am right, this website is nothing more than a home for REDNECK DUMBASS RACIST CANUCK STUPID FUCKS.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> This coming from someone who threatened to kill homosexuals? Talk about hipocracy!<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> And what 'discoveries' did she make? Like did she 'discover' how to flush the toilet? Or that those tampons are meant to go into the first hole not the second?[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Keep it up Rabble. You've already been banned from most civilized forums on Canadian themes. Keep it up, and soon the only place that will have you is Ranter's Roost and Free Republic (till they find you're Canadian).<br />



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:32 am
 


[QUOTE BY= Dr Caleb] [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> <br /> It's no longer a 'theory' when there is evidence to support it. Didn't read the evidence, did you?[/QUOTE] [/quote]<br /> <br /> Oh, you mean the Alex Jones crockumentaries the "IN PLANE SIGHT", and that bullshit 'HUNT THE BOEING"?<br /> <br /> Yeah, google away.<br /> <br /> I've read/watched all of the kook 'evidence' and it's just that. You basically have to be willing to associate too many loose bits of unassociated information.<br /> <br /> Classic kook conspiracy.<br /> <br /> And I guess that bullshit comes off as 'news'. Then fine.<br /> <br />


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[QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> Oh, you mean the Alex Jones crockumentaries the "IN PLANE SIGHT", and that bullshit 'HUNT THE BOEING"?<br /> <br /> Yeah, google away.<br /> <br /> I've read/watched all of the kook 'evidence' and it's just that. You basically have to be willing to associate too many loose bits of unassociated information.<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> No, 'In plane sight' has obvious flaws. I mean the Dr. Steven Jones interviews on CNN a couple days ago. <br /> <br /> http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20051115071401860<br /> <br /> What some are calling 'the first truly independent analysis of avalable information yet'. How do you explain the collapse of WTC7 on CBS and CNN <b>live</b>? Did the kooks do that? Did the firefighters who were standing there not hear explosions?<br /> <br /> http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html<br /> <br /> http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/Flashes/squibs_along_southwest_corner.htm



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[QUOTE BY= Dr Caleb] [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> Oh, you mean the Alex Jones crockumentaries the "IN PLANE SIGHT", and that bullshit 'HUNT THE BOEING"?<br /> <br /> Yeah, google away.<br /> <br /> I've read/watched all of the kook 'evidence' and it's just that. You basically have to be willing to associate too many loose bits of unassociated information.<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> No, 'In plane sight' has obvious flaws. I mean the Dr. Steven Jones interviews on CNN a couple days ago. <br /> <br /> http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20051115071401860<br /> <br /> What some are calling 'the first truly independent analysis of avalable information yet'. How do you explain the collapse of WTC7 on CBS and CNN <b>live</b>? Did the kooks do that? Did the firefighters who were standing there not hear explosions?<br /> <br /> http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html<br /> <br /> http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/Flashes/squibs_along_southwest_corner.htm[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Three things<br /> <br /> 1) At the very BEST, it's a CONSPIRACY THEORY. By and large, the majority of reporters avoid this type of shit like the plague. Why? Because CONSPIRACY THEORIES are oftentimes the creation of an overactive imagination.<br /> <br /> It's like the Kennedy assasination. People still believe that Kennedy's jerking his head back is a 'sign' of a second gunman. GIVE ME A BREAK. <br /> <br /> Especially when it was proven in lab tests TIME AND AGAIN, that when an object like a skull gets shot from the back of the head, the force of the BRAINS FLYING OUT, will give enough DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSITE PRESSURE to knock the HEAD BACK.<br /> <br /> I've seen the footage of everything resembling a skull from cantelopes wrapped in saran wrap, etc. They *all* fall backwards when shot.<br /> <br /> And this was deduced back in the original Warren Investigation. You think that this would shut up the conspirators?<br /> <br /> OF COURSE NOT.<br /> <br /> Either way, how the fuck is CONSPRIRACY THEORIES NEWSWORTHY? THEY ARE NOT.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE] 'the first truly independent analysis of avalable information yet'<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> So you're basically saying that the original investigation was just a coverup? Like I said, Alex Jones has made a career calling George Bush a Nazi (He released a crockumentary 'linking' the Nazi's to the Bush family).<br /> <br /> As for the WTC7 collapsing? I'm not a building structural engineer. Are you? Whatever comes out in the official reports I'LL BELIEVE.<br /> <br /> Why? Because unlike Kook/Conspiracy assholes, the actual investigators are able to be given full access to all data/evidence.<br /> <br />


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[QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> Three things<br /> 1) At the very BEST, it's a CONSPIRACY THEORY. By and large, the majority of reporters avoid this type of shit like the plague. Why? Because CONSPIRACY THEORIES are oftentimes the creation of an overactive imagination.<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Like I said, it's no longer a 'theory' if there is evidence. You just like towing the party line, instead of thinking for yourself. I'm not asking you to believe anything. I'm just asking you to look. I guess you like being the sheep, not the wolf.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> Either way, how the fuck is CONSPRIRACY THEORIES NEWSWORTHY? THEY ARE NOT.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Again, evidence. There is no 'theory' anymore. You're just spouting the term 'conspiracy theory' as a non-sequitr; a distraction to avoid seeing anything the party doesn't want you to.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> So you're basically saying that the original investigation was just a coverup? <br /> <br /> As for the WTC7 collapsing? I'm not a building structural engineer. Are you? Whatever comes out in the official reports I'LL BELIEVE.<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> What official investegation? There never was one. The 9/11 commission refused to deal at all with WTC 7. And in the links I provided, you will see analysis by structural engineers. If you can't believe them, I guess you'll just have to keep following party doctrine.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> Why? Because unlike Kook/Conspiracy assholes, the actual investigators are able to be given full access to all data/evidence.<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Again, there was no investegation; all evidence was removed and shipped to China for recycling before any investegation was carried out. But the links would have told you that.<br /> <br /> Keep repeating their mantra, "The Party is Mother, the Party is Father..." <br /> <br /> I guess you are too scared to think for yourself. Keep bleating, little sheep.<br /> <br /> So, why are you here if you don't want any sort of intellegent debate? Do you just want to come here and call me a racist? You don't feel the need to back up that statement. Does it make you feel more important if you can call me names? Why do you add logical fallicies and distractions to your arguments? I mean, really, what do supercomputers have to do with Deep Integration?<br /> <br /> <br /> You're just wasting my time. Come back when you want to discuss things like an adult.<br />



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rabblewatch, insults and hate speech are expressly forbidden here. If you do so again, you will be banned from the forums. This is your only warning. <br /> <br /> More information on what is considered unacceptable content can be found in this FAQ entry:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/multifaq/index.php?topic=4&qt_id=105&getlevel=004">What is considered unacceptable content?</a>. Basically, we ask you to behave like an adult and respect everyone else here, whether or not they agree with you. Read it before posting here again.





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[QUOTE BY= Dr Caleb] Like I said, it's no longer a 'theory' if there is evidence. You just like towing the party line, instead of thinking for yourself. I'm not asking you to believe anything. I'm just asking you to look. I guess you like being the sheep, not the wolf.<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I read the 'news' that had the 'evidence' that the WTC7 was intentionally detonated?<br /> <br /> Lemme quote from that 'news' piece.<br /> <br /> http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html<br /> <br /> [QUOTE]In writing this paper, I call for a serious investigation of the hypothesis that WTC7 and the Twin Towers were brought down, not just by damage and fires, but through the carefully planned use of explosives. I have presented ample evidence for the explosive-demolition hypothesis, which is testable and falsifiable and yet has not been seriously considered in any of the studies funded by the US government. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Two things<br /> <br /> 1) He used the word HYPOTHESIS. Big difference between 'evidence' and HYPOTHESIS. <br /> <br /> 2) The theory that EXPLOSIVES were PLANTED in those buildings to 'cover up' the b.s. that these buildings would not implode if they were hit by jets is ludicrous. All what this tard is writing about is using such words like 'gut reaction' 'I maintain' or other 'kinda-sorta'<br /> <br /> Listen pally, if this tard actually has EVIDENCE SHOWING Special-Ops PLANTING THERMITE CHARGES in these buildings, then I'll listen.<br /> <br /> Please point me to the ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE PROVING THIS. And not some bullshit theory either. I want to see EVIDENCE that THERMITE was used.<br /> <br /> Until then, it's ONE HUNDRED PERCENT BULLSHIT.<br /> <br /> <b>To say that this is 'news' and that these are 'facts', a bunch of THEORIES, basically proves my point: You're willing to say/do anything to try and smear/revisionist September 11th, and to blame all of this on Bush.</b><br /> <br /> Fuck you, you're a fucking scumbag.<br /> <br />





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[QUOTE BY= Dr Caleb]Like I said, it's no longer a 'theory' if there is evidence. You just like towing the party line, instead of thinking for yourself. I'm not asking you to believe anything. I'm just asking you to look. I guess you like being the sheep, not the wolf.<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I read the 'news' that had the 'evidence' that the WTC7 was intentionally detonated?<br /> <br /> Lemme quote from that 'news' piece.<br /> <br /> http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html<br /> <br /> [QUOTE]In writing this paper, I call for a serious investigation of the hypothesis that WTC7 and the Twin Towers were brought down, not just by damage and fires, but through the carefully planned use of explosives. I have presented ample evidence for the explosive-demolition hypothesis, which is testable and falsifiable and yet has not been seriously considered in any of the studies funded by the US government. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Two things<br /> <br /> 1) He used the word HYPOTHESIS. Big difference between 'evidence' and HYPOTHESIS. <br /> <br /> 2) The theory that EXPLOSIVES were PLANTED in those buildings to 'cover up' the b.s. that these buildings would not implode if they were hit by jets is ludicrous. All what this tard is writing about is using such words like 'gut reaction' 'I maintain' or other 'kinda-sorta'<br /> <br /> Listen pally, if this tard actually has EVIDENCE SHOWING Special-Ops PLANTING THERMITE CHARGES in these buildings, then I'll listen.<br /> <br /> Please point me to the ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE PROVING THIS. And not some bullshit theory either. I want to see EVIDENCE that THERMITE was used.<br /> <br /> Until then, it's ONE HUNDRED PERCENT FAKE.<br /> <br /> <b>To say that this is 'news' and that these are 'facts', a bunch of THEORIES, basically proves my point: You're willing to say/do anything to try and smear/revisionist September 11th, and to blame all of this on Bush.</b><br /> <br /> You're full of f****** s***<br />





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[QUOTE BY= jesse] rabblewatch, insults and hate speech are expressly forbidden here. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Lemme get this straight. If I were to deny that the Jewish Holocaust didn't happen, that would be considered as 'hate speech' right?<br /> <br /> And here's this tard saying that September 11th didn't happen the way we believed it happened, that basically it was all a lie.<br /> <br /> Saying that September 11th was not a terrorist act from raghead Al-Qaeda's scumbags is REVISIONISM.<br /> <br /> And that's what's going on here, you're taking REVISIONISTIC pieces of crap and trying to float it off as 'news'.<br /> <br /> You're the one peddling lies and hate.<br /> <br />


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[QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> I read the 'news' that had the 'evidence' that the WTC7 was intentionally detonated?[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> But, apparently, you didn't read past the first few paragraphs before dismissing it.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> 1) He used the word HYPOTHESIS. Big difference between 'evidence' and HYPOTHESIS. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> You aught to look up such big words. I hypothesize helium powers the Sun in a sustained fusion reaction. Have I actually been to the Sun to gather evidence?<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> 2) The theory that EXPLOSIVES were PLANTED in those buildings to 'cover up' the b.s. that these buildings would not implode if they were hit by jets is ludicrous.<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Again, the videos and other supporting evidence cast doubt that WTC7 collapsed due to fires. And WTC 7 was never hit by a jet, or any part of it.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> Listen pally, if this tard actually has EVIDENCE SHOWING Special-Ops PLANTING THERMITE CHARGES in these buildings, then I'll listen.<br /> <br /> Please point me to the ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE PROVING THIS. And not some bullshit theory either. I want to see EVIDENCE that THERMITE was used.<br /> <br /> Until then, it's ONE HUNDRED PERCENT BULLSHIT.<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Yes. Because such black ops are so well documented. Again, before the metal from the buildings was sent to China to be recycled, people did report that the steel was melted in the same way seen in buildings demolished with thermite are. Jet fuel is known to not have the heat potential to melt steel.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> <b>To say that this is 'news' and that these are 'facts', a bunch of THEORIES, basically proves my point: You're willing to say/do anything to try and smear/revisionist September 11th, and to blame all of this on Bush.</b><br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I'm not willing to say or do anything of the sort. I said if the facts don't fit the official story, the official story is wrong.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> Fuck you, you're a fucking scumbag.<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Thank you for proving my point about you.



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[QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> Lemme get this straight. If I were to deny that the Jewish Holocaust didn't happen, that would be considered as 'hate speech' right?<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> That depends entirely on how it is put forth; if it were nothing but insults to jews and was written without the least bit of coherence, then yes, it would be unacceptable. If it had some evidence to back it up, and was written as if the person were not a frothing lunatic, then we would decide if it was hate speech based on the content. When your argument is nothing but insults, no one is ever going to take you seriously. <br /> <br /> [QUOTE]<br /> You're the one peddling lies and hate.<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> All I did was ask you to act like a grown-up. Yet you are continuing to act like a jerk, insulting anyone and everyone. The only person foaming at the mouth with hate is you. If you went up to someone in real life and behaved like this, you would be treated with far less restraint. As it is, most people know to ignore your raving.<br /> <br /> I've tried debating the facts with you privately; I am not going to do so here. We do not need to be insulted by someone as ineloquent as you; go away before you are forcibly removed.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:03 pm
 


I couldn't care less about the WTC, that's the first news item I've seen on it in, well, years. All of the other news items have to do with what I mentioned-american imperialism (one on british), and one on softwood. The others were about Canada-toxic blood, alberta resource management, canada's international standing, one on terrorist threats to Canada, and one on the Conservative party-how is that not news? If you object to the news coverage you're free to post news or else go elsewhere, but I for one am quite interested in finding out how many toxins may be in my body.<br /> <br /> I'm assuming, well, no, I KNOW you don't know anything about science if you think there's a 'cure for cancer'. Scientific experiments move very slowly, there are thousands of new discoveries every single day. These are presented at conferences and in papers. My wife already has half a dozen first author papers and essentially RUNS the disease research of the company she works for and has met all of the head immonologists of the world and she's only 33. <br /> <br /> I'm not just tooting her horn although she is brilliant at what she does (but Lord she cannot figure out how to set our thermostat!) because this is a good example of the problems facing science in our country. She works for a leading scientist at a university, but he has essentially 'contracted out' his research, meaning that he is part owner of an american company. In some ways this is good because american funds have paid for a lot of research, however, it is not THAT good as everything she discovers is patented (and she has six patents already to her name) by the company-NOT the university which provides her paycheque, workspace and most of her equipment and benefits. <br /> <br /> And so there is the answer to your question, because if she DID work for the university her research would be public domain and I COULD give more specifics, however, as it is a private company, no I can't. However, just type in 'factor 5a' in pubmed and you'll come across several of her papers. It takes YEARS, even decades for research to get to the clinical trial stage. However, I'm just saying that for interests sake, as you say there is no way to 'prove' anything and I could be making it all up, nobody is under any obligation to believe it, although it is hardly a radical idea.<br /> <br /> So if there's a 'contradiction' there, then I sure don't understand your definition of the word. As for rabble.ca I didn't mention them and havent been to their site, I was talking about THIS site, which is what I assumed YOU were talking about-or why not go to THAT site and complain?<br /> <br /> For the pharmaceuticals, I'm assuming you must work for a pharmaceutical company, I don't think I've ever heard a consumer say "I WANT to pay more for my drugs dammit!". As mentioned, big pharma is far from hurting, except from self inflicted wounds. There are very few canadian knockoffs, in fact there are far more american knockoffs of canadian drugs. And of course Canada BUYS their drugs from the states, the main way they save is from buying in bulk, which the americans are just figuring out how to do. And I'd suggest rereading canadian patent law, it has changed A LOT since the late eighties. The deal then was that we'd keep price controls in exchange for extended patents, a deal signed by both sides without duress (so call your MP). <br /> <br /> And why not compare science and technology with tourism (although that was being facetious), they are all industries. That the US has more supercomputers is a pretty weird argument. If you've got a link to a site or study that gives some examples of how exactly supercomputers affect the economy I'd be interested in seeing them. Actually, FAR more people work in the tourism and retail trade than do technology, so i think it's even more worth looking at. PEI is building an aerospace industry, a sizeable one, which shows how technology influences economies, but it has nothing to do with supercomputers.<br /> <br /> As I concluded in my post, there are LOTS of things which I feel make america great, and potentially more great if they can enhance them to the federal level. I'm also one of the more critical here of those who tout Canada too highly and comment on the US too lowly, something as vast as a country simply can't be reduced to a simple moral label like 'good' or 'bad', there are literally millions of events and people involved.





PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:36 pm
 


[QUOTE BY= Dr Caleb] [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]You aught to look up such big words. I hypothesize helium powers the Sun in a sustained fusion reaction. Have I actually been to the Sun to gather evidence? [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> So you agree then, it's pure theory and there are no actual hard-data to back up this hypothetical scenario.<br /> <br /> As I have said before, unless the writer has come up some HARD-DATA to back up this point, then it's solely in the realm of FICTION.<br /> <br /> This isn't science, where we can deduce objects on a quark scale by analyzing data patterns: THIS IS A CONSPIRACY THEORY.<br /> <br /> The fact that the author is implying that THERMITE charges were used, then basically he's saying that it was a DELIBERATE action to demolish those building.<br /> <br /> Two things<br /> <br /> 1) No facts, no data: THIS ISN'T NEWS.<br /> <br /> 2) Accusing the U.S. government of doing such a thing is also complete and utter b.s. Alright then, if you believe that Thermite Charges were planted in those towers, when were they done? Who did it? Someone must've seen them? Those buildings MUST have SECURITY.<br /> <br /> Oh right, security was IN on this right?<br /> <br /> What about the normal staff of those buildings? Oh right, they too must've been IN on this.<br /> <br /> Like I said, the only way for a conspiracy theory to work, is to keep pushing the realm of plausibility to the point of TIME WASTED.<br /> <br /> You prefer CONSPIRACY THEORIES over the news? Congrats. Maybe you should read 'Weekly World News' as your primary news source.<br /> <br /> Trying to pass this bullshit-kook theory as 'news' only shows that this website basically has no editorial control over the crap that's being passed off as news/information.<br /> <br /> Why not also follow some of the more extreme theorist and BLAME THE JEWS for the September 11th attacks? Plenty of nutcases out there believe that the JEWS were the ones REALLY behind it.<br /> <br /> So why not blame them as well?


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