[DrCaleb]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

If he could decimate our dairy industry and leave us at the whim of his he could save his gov't billions.

Yay us!

More crappy cheese made from diafiltered milk, this time with more blood clots and growth hormones!

I'd be in favour, if we could get products like the good butter from Brittany. But even the US doesn't get that.

[Robair]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Robair Robair:

Don't know the particulars of New Zealand / Australia, but wondering if they had a neighbor like ours who subsidizes their dairy farmers to the tune of 40%?

American dairy farmers get 40% of their income from American tax payers.

Apparently some people think it's more than the 40% you're claiming. American subsidies may actually be around 73% which means the US taxpayer is the real owner of their dairy system.

I purposely used a more conservative estimate. Gives trolls less ammo for petty B.S. straw-man replies...

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I'd be in favour, if we could get products like the good butter from Brittany. But even the US doesn't get that.

You should see the butter/dairy selection at Costco and Nugget Markets here in Sacramento.

Irish butter, French butter, creme fraise, Devonshire clotted cream, etc. We get a lot of things here but you have to be willing to pay for them.

[bootlegga]

Robair Robair:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

And what happened to Churchill?

The port closed and they are no longer connected to the mainland via a railroad... ...all due directly to harper turffing the wheat board.

Don't forget that CN and CP had huge struggles shipping last year's grain harvest:

https://www.manitobacooperator.ca/news- ... rn-canada/

They actually just cleared up the shipping backlog last month...from my understanding, under the CWB, they coordinated shipments and had a much higher delivery rate than it is now.

[Robair]

Your understanding is spot-on.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I'd be in favour, if we could get products like the good butter from Brittany. But even the US doesn't get that.

You should see the butter/dairy selection at Costco and Nugget Markets here in Sacramento.

Irish butter, French butter, creme fraise, Devonshire clotted cream, etc. We get a lot of things here but you have to be willing to pay for them.

We get them too. Not at Costco, but at various import stores. You can also get various French or Italian Cheese, as well.

But neither the US nor Canada make them. There is therefore no point in letting in US products if they are inferior to our own.

[rickc]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I'd be in favour, if we could get products like the good butter from Brittany. But even the US doesn't get that.

You should see the butter/dairy selection at Costco and Nugget Markets here in Sacramento.

Irish butter, French butter, creme fraise, Devonshire clotted cream, etc. We get a lot of things here but you have to be willing to pay for them.

We get them too. Not at Costco, but at various import stores. You can also get various French or Italian Cheese, as well.

But neither the US nor Canada make them. There is therefore no point in letting in US products if they are inferior to our own.

And yet you let millions of Chinese products that are inferior to your own in. How does that work? The dairy farmers have more political clout than some shlep working at a machine shop or factory I guess?

[Robair]

Quality aside, American dairy is subsidized. Canadian dairy is not.

That's why we can't allow access. For further explanation, read this thread from the beginning.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

We get them too. Not at Costco, but at various import stores. You can also get various French or Italian Cheese, as well.

But neither the US nor Canada make them. There is therefore no point in letting in US products if they are inferior to our own.

I don't know of a major maker of clotted cream in the USA so it's not really your choice to let them into Canada or not because they don't make it for export anyway.

We also don't make French and Italian cheese because we're not French or Italian.

And if you're going to label our dairy as "inferior" in order to justify tariffs or blockades then we'll do the same for your inferior steel, aluminum, wheat, bacon, lumber, coal, oil, and etc.

Or we can sit down and work out a fair trade agreement.

[Robair]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

And if you're going to label our dairy as "inferior" in order to justify tariffs or blockades then we'll do the same for your inferior steel, aluminum, wheat, bacon, lumber, coal, oil, and etc.

Quality isn't being used as a justification. Subsidies are.
Kind of like how the US lumber companies keep claiming we subsidize softwood in order to put up tariffs. Even though we don't.
Here we have a case of very large, very real subsidies on American dairy, and Trump crying about Canadian tariffs to level the playing field.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Or we can sit down and work out a fair trade agreement.

We already have one of those.

I don't think your president is interested in fair.

Or facts.

[bootlegga]

Robair Robair:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

And if you're going to label our dairy as "inferior" in order to justify tariffs or blockades then we'll do the same for your inferior steel, aluminum, wheat, bacon, lumber, coal, oil, and etc.

Quality isn't being used as a justification. Subsidies are.
Kind of like how the US lumber companies keep claiming we subsidize softwood in order to put up tariffs. Even though we don't.
Here we have a case of very large, very real subsidies on American dairy, and Trump crying about Canadian tariffs to level the playing field.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Or we can sit down and work out a fair trade agreement.

We already have one of those.

I don't think your president is interested in fair.

Or facts.

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[bootlegga]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I'd be in favour, if we could get products like the good butter from Brittany. But even the US doesn't get that.

You should see the butter/dairy selection at Costco and Nugget Markets here in Sacramento.

Irish butter, French butter, creme fraise, Devonshire clotted cream, etc. We get a lot of things here but you have to be willing to pay for them.

We get them too. Not at Costco, but at various import stores. You can also get various French or Italian Cheese, as well.

But neither the US nor Canada make them. There is therefore no point in letting in US products if they are inferior to our own.

Costco has a pretty good selection of international cheese - especially from Europe. I regularly get Edam and Havarti from the Netherlands and a nice sharp cheddar from the UK.

I wouldn't generalize and say all US products are inferior to ours - I also buy an organic chocolate milk from the States for my daughter's lunch at Costco - but too many of them are produced using low quality ingredients, making them inexpensive, but pretty awful.

Life is too short to eat crappy food.

[BartSimpson]

Robair Robair:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Or we can sit down and work out a fair trade agreement.

We already have one of those.

According to the liberal-left Huffington Post it isn't.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/lori-wal ... 50207.html

[BartSimpson]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Life is too short to eat crappy food.

[fifeboy]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I'd be in favour, if we could get products like the good butter from Brittany. But even the US doesn't get that.

You should see the butter/dairy selection at Costco and Nugget Markets here in Sacramento.

Irish butter, French butter, creme fraise, Devonshire clotted cream, etc. We get a lot of things here but you have to be willing to pay for them.

We get them too. Not at Costco, but at various import stores. You can also get various French or Italian Cheese, as well.

But neither the US nor Canada make them. There is therefore no point in letting in US products if they are inferior to our own.

Bulk Cheese Warehouse here in Saskatoon has all sorts of imported cheese plus a bunch of REALLY GOOD Canadian cheese. Of course a real man doesn’t go on broadway, or eat quiche