[ShepherdsDog]

Well, after Afghanistan the Snowbirds come in second for killing armed forces personnel.

[Heavy_Metal]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

The Snowbirds are not a core military capability.

I'd see them go before any combat squadron.

crystalsm crystalsm:

For sure, no argument there. It's just too bad that the budget may not be able to sustain them.

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Clubbing seals and axing snowbirds...no wonder Canada is getting such a bad reputation...

[Arctic_Menace]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Clubbing seals and axing snowbirds...no wonder Canada is getting such a bad reputation...

omfg...

[DoyleG]

uwish uwish:

No I don't, the only way anything moves is with money. There is a grass roots movement among conservatives to make their voice heard within the political party. In order to do it, we stop donating money to emphasize the point that this party WILL go in the direction WE decided.

Translation: You want the Liberals back in power and the registry to remain in place.

uwish uwish:

It is quite simple, and from the looks of things the Liberals found out the hard way how that works.

No they haven't. If they did, they would be in power right now.

Try to join the real world.

As for the Snowbirds, they would certainly fall victim to the need of improving operational capacity instead of cultural icons.

[QBall]

The Air Force does this ALL..THE..TIME! Every time their budget is threatened the first thing they do is threaten to axe the Snowbirds. The public gets upset because they like to watch the shiny birds, the government concedes and a few years later we do it over again. However the Air Force knows the Snowbirds are a valuable recruiting tool for themselves. I say call them on it. Let's see if they're really willing to axe their gravy train. The Air Force always pulls this crap to protect their budget, no one would dare cut the army's budget, so it's up to the Navy to make sacrifices in it's budget to procure equipment because the Navy is rarely in the public eye.

[uwish]

DoyleG DoyleG:

uwish uwish:

No I don't, the only way anything moves is with money. There is a grass roots movement among conservatives to make their voice heard within the political party. In order to do it, we stop donating money to emphasize the point that this party WILL go in the direction WE decided.

Translation: You want the Liberals back in power and the registry to remain in place.

uwish uwish:

It is quite simple, and from the looks of things the Liberals found out the hard way how that works.

No they haven't. If they did, they would be in power right now.

Try to join the real world.

As for the Snowbirds, they would certainly fall victim to the need of improving operational capacity instead of cultural icons.

oh my mistake, I thought the liberal were broke. According to you they are overrun with money. I guess you know best.

/end sarcasm

[Robair]

Blatant antisaskatchewanism. If they were based anywhere else, wouldn't even be considered.

[EyeBrock]

QBall QBall:

The Air Force does this ALL..THE..TIME! Every time their budget is threatened the first thing they do is threaten to axe the Snowbirds. The public gets upset because they like to watch the shiny birds, the government concedes and a few years later we do it over again. However the Air Force knows the Snowbirds are a valuable recruiting tool for themselves. I say call them on it. Let's see if they're really willing to axe their gravy train. The Air Force always pulls this crap to protect their budget, no one would dare cut the army's budget, so it's up to the Navy to make sacrifices in it's budget to procure equipment because the Navy is rarely in the public eye.

I think this gentleman has it right.
The Snowbirds should be seen as in the 'nice to have' category. They don't add to our combat effectiveness and really, Air Command is hardly a 'teeth' arm anymore. A Squadron of Apaches would be more use than those ancient Tudors.

We have zero fast jets in Afghanistan giving air support to our infantry and the Griffons can just about take off with a full ammo load with their Army manned machine gunners.
How sad is that? Air Command can't even provide Air Gunners?
The RCAF had no problem manning the turrets of Lancaster’s in 1941 and on.

Canada doesn't have an Air Force. That ended in 1969 when the RCAF was disbanded by the Liberals. Now we just have Air Command, defending the approaches to the St Lawrence and keeping CF18’s away from doing CAP’s in the ‘Stan.