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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:48 am
 


stratos stratos:
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Not the same thing I read but yes it covers many of the same things that I had read a long time ago. Thanks

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:53 am
 


I think I have a solution...

... pro-choice women and men would let any women decide what they want to do
... pro-lifer women would never have abortions no matter what and pro-lifer men who knocked somebody up will have to hope the woman doesn't want an abortion. Pro-lifers would also leave everybody else do what they want to do and STFU.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:56 am
 


raydan raydan:
I think I have a solution...

... pro-choice women and men would let any women decide what they want to do
... pro-lifer women would never have abortions no matter what and pro-lifer men who knocked somebody up will have to hope the woman doesn't want an abortion. Pro-lifers would also leave everybody else do what they want to do and STFU.

Live and let live? No. I must foist my beliefs upon you. By force, if necessary. You must live by my rules.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:27 am
 


I know it's a novel concept, but you never know, it might actually catch on one day.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:38 am
 


raydan raydan:
I think I have a solution...

... pro-choice women and men would let any women decide what they want to do
... pro-lifer women would never have abortions no matter what and pro-lifer men who knocked somebody up will have to hope the woman doesn't want an abortion. Pro-lifers would also leave everybody else do what they want to do and STFU.


Will you demand that pro-choice people stop insisting that they tell everyone about abortion and that they stop insisting that they participate in marches and other events.

Are you also going to ban pro-lifer from sitting / standing outside of abortion clinics, on public property, praying? I ask this last one because there is a clinic near me where they do this. I've never seen them harassing or insisting that they talk to someone who is going in. They stand or sit there quietly praying and have a few signs. Not sure what they say. I am normally headed somewhere when I drive by so concentrating on traffic and what exit to take. Or to be honest thinking about that dang great tasting beer i'm about to have.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:39 am
 


raydan raydan:
Handmaid's Tale Bart... remember, I told you.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:45 am
 


stratos stratos:
raydan raydan:
I think I have a solution...

... pro-choice women and men would let any women decide what they want to do
... pro-lifer women would never have abortions no matter what and pro-lifer men who knocked somebody up will have to hope the woman doesn't want an abortion. Pro-lifers would also leave everybody else do what they want to do and STFU.


Will you demand that pro-choice people stop insisting that they tell everyone about abortion and that they stop insisting that they participate in marches and other events.

Are you also going to ban pro-lifer from sitting / standing outside of abortion clinics, on public property, praying? I ask this last one because there is a clinic near me where they do this. I've never seen them harassing or insisting that they talk to someone who is going in. They stand or sit there quietly praying and have a few signs. Not sure what they say. I am normally headed somewhere when I drive by so concentrating on traffic and what exit to take. Or to be honest thinking about that dang great tasting beer i'm about to have.

Do what you want...
I'm not against peaceful protests.
I'm not against people trying to sell me something on the streets, be it their point of view or religion. If I'm not interested, I'll tell them and walk away.
I'm not against people coming to my door for the same reason. If I'm not interested, I'll tell them and close the door. Or I'll put a sign on my door and then yell at them if they knock anyways. :evil:


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:47 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
raydan raydan:
Handmaid's Tale Bart... remember, I told you.


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I like the line in the TV series...
If they didn't want us to be an army, they shouldn't have given us uniforms.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:56 am
 


stratos stratos:
raydan raydan:
I think I have a solution...

... pro-choice women and men would let any women decide what they want to do
... pro-lifer women would never have abortions no matter what and pro-lifer men who knocked somebody up will have to hope the woman doesn't want an abortion. Pro-lifers would also leave everybody else do what they want to do and STFU.


Will you demand that pro-choice people stop insisting that they tell everyone about abortion and that they stop insisting that they participate in marches and other events.

Are you also going to ban pro-lifer from sitting / standing outside of abortion clinics, on public property, praying? I ask this last one because there is a clinic near me where they do this. I've never seen them harassing or insisting that they talk to someone who is going in. They stand or sit there quietly praying and have a few signs. Not sure what they say. I am normally headed somewhere when I drive by so concentrating on traffic and what exit to take. Or to be honest thinking about that dang great tasting beer i'm about to have.


Why should pro-choice people stop telling people about abortion? The people still have a CHOICE. Unlike the anti-choice movement, pro-choice isn’t trying to FORCE anyone to do anything.

As for anti-choicers, they’re free to try and convince people of their ideas but they’re not free to swarm women outside clinics or force the women to run a gauntlet while being insulted screamed at. The anti-choicers should have to stay away from the clinics and doctors offices.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 11:38 am
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:
As for anti-choicers, they’re free to try and convince people of their ideas but they’re not free to swarm women outside clinics or force the women to run a gauntlet while being insulted screamed at. The anti-choicers should have to stay away from the clinics and doctors offices.


I think I can help you out again, Beave.

This time you seem confused about what Stratos is telling you.

Stratos is correct. It happens. People pray in front of Planned Parenthood for dead babies.

And you may be wrong about how free they are to do it. They suffer prog-attacks from time to time.

Nobody got kicked or punched this time (which is a common MO) but there was a recent case where Democrat rep Brian Simms was verbally attacking an old lady who was standing outside a PP office praying.



He also launched a barrage of insults against a couple of teenage girls who were doing the same thing. He petitioned the audience of his life podcast to help him dox those girls so they could be further harassed. In fact he offered to pay informers.



And as an added bonus here's a YouTuber who does comedy laughing at Democratic rep Brian Simms for being ridiculous (not to mention, gutless):



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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 11:44 am
 


Now as to the actual topic of this thread, here's one:

The Media Are Lying To You About Georgia's Pro-Life 'Heartbeat Bill.' Here's The Truth.

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The media have been working overtime to frame Georgia’s new pro-life legislation, known commonly as the “heartbeat bill,” as harmful to women, instead of what it actually is: protection for unborn children with beating hearts.

The law, signed by Governor Brian Kemp (R-GA) last week, bans abortion after a heartbeat is detected, which happens around six weeks gestation. It does not punish mothers.


Business Insider: “Women could get up to 30 years in prison for having a miscarriage under Georgia’s harsh new abortion law.”

Slate: “Georgia just criminalized abortion. Women who terminate their pregnancies would receive life in prison.”

The Week: “Georgia’s ‘heartbeat’ abortion bill could imprison women for life.”

Glamour: “Women who have an abortion in Georgia could be sentenced to life in prison.”
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As noted by Rich Lowry at The New York Post (emphasis added): “The relevant section of Georgia’s abortion law makes it clear that it applies to third parties, and has been interpreted as such by the Georgia courts. Nor does it call for life imprisonment of anyone.”

In other words, an abortionist providing an illegal abortion, or a man beating a woman and killing her baby, would be in deep legal trouble for murder; not the woman so-called “self-terminating.”

French provides more in-depth coverage of the legalese surrounding the law's implications. “The heartbeat bill did not repeal a number of Georgia criminal statutes that explicitly apply to abortions and unborn children, and it does not overrule controlling legal authority holding that these statutes bar prosecution of a woman for terminating her own pregnancy,” the conservative columnist explained. He also went through explicit statutes:

First, there is a specific code section that applies to unlawful abortions. Georgia Code Section 16-12-140 states:

(a) A person commits the offense of criminal abortion when, in violation of Code Section 16-12-141 , he or she administers any medicine, drugs, or other substance whatever to any woman or when he or she uses any instrument or other means whatever upon any woman with intent to produce a miscarriage or abortion.

(b) A person convicted of the offense of criminal abortion shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten years.


“If a person performs an abortion in violation of the heartbeat bill, then Code Section 16-12-140 applies,” explained French, noting that the law “does not impose life imprisonment on anybody, and Georgia courts have held that it does not apply to a woman who self-terminates, only to third parties who perform an abortion.”

For example, the Court of Appeals of Georgia refused to prosecute a woman who shot herself in the stomach to kill her unborn baby, interpreting Section 16-12-140 thus: “This statute is written in the third person, clearly indicating that at least two actors must be involved.”

“Second,” said French, “the Georgia code section that criminalizes ‘feticide’ (such as when a man attacks a woman for the purpose of killing her unborn baby) specifically states that ‘nothing in this Code section shall be construed to permit the prosecution of … any woman with respect to her unborn child.’”

Planned Parenthood even admitted to The Washington Post that the new pro-life legislation could not successfully prosecute women who self-terminate.

Additionally, celebrities have claimed that women and girls who are raped would be forced to give birth. This is also a lie. The law offers exemptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother, as noted by Fox News.


https://www.dailywire.com/news/47202/me ... stigiacomo

Oh...and protesters dressed in Handmaid's Tale costumes look ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:08 pm
 


That’s all well and good. But we’re talking about Alabama here. Not Georgia. And Alabama’s bill makes Georgia’s look all touchy feels by comparison.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:16 pm
 


xerxes xerxes:
That’s all well and good. But we’re talking about Alabama here. Not Georgia. And Alabama’s bill makes Georgia’s look all touchy feels by comparison.


Plus the irony of a bunch of Canadian white boys discussing what women can do with their bodies in the Southern US.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:19 pm
 


How do we know we're all white... and all Canadians... and all boys for that matter? 8O


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:24 pm
 


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