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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:19 am
 


ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
I worked in Somalia for four years. It received a shit load of food aid, just like Ethiopia did years before. If the food aid stopped and if medical aid stopped, endemic diseases and famine would take care of the rest.



All these broken states in Africa have been receiving western aid for decades, it's done nothing to build the social fabric of any country. I spent a year in Ethiopia and 3 years in Labrador. I mention Labrador because the Innu live much like the African countries. Most are dependent on aid for the basics and live in poverty while their leaders rake in the cash.

The status quo is to throw money at corrupt economies whose waste and mismanagement was and is a prime factor in their decay.

The UN agencies do little but provide employment to a legion of well paid bureaucrats. We have seen all this so many times before. I agree with Shep, we should just stop this cycle of throwing cash at the problem, it hasn't worked for 50 years.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:30 am
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
I worked in Somalia for four years. It received a shit load of food aid, just like Ethiopia did years before. If the food aid stopped and if medical aid stopped, endemic diseases and famine would take care of the rest.



All these broken states in Africa have been receiving western aid for decades, it's done nothing to build the social fabric of any country. I spent a year in Ethiopia and 3 years in Labrador. I mention Labrador because the Innu live much like the African countries. Most are dependent on aid for the basics and live in poverty while their leaders rake in the cash.

The status quo is to throw money at corrupt economies whose waste and mismanagement was and is a prime factor in their decay.

The UN agencies do little but provide employment to a legion of well paid bureaucrats. We have seen all this so many times before. I agree with Shep, we should just stop this cycle of throwing cash at the problem, it hasn't worked for 50 years.




I agree with both of you that aid should be stopped. But I disagree with Shep that sopping aid will mean they will disappear. Africans, Inuits, etc have been around for thousands of years, without aid. I support aid removal because empirical evidence has shown that nations (especially in Africa and Asia) that have received little or no aid have now become stronger, and more stable than those who are constantly on the dole.

There is nothing more dangerous than hungry people, they cannot be oppressed. Political change will come about as people demand more from their leaders. Hungry people on the brink of death make the best revolutionaries.

By pumping unnecessary aid to these regions, we’re doing nothing but retarding their progress.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:51 am
 


I think you have a good point. Hungry and oppressed people within these countries need to sort out their own corrupt and despotic regimes, just like we in the west did over centuries.

Us propping up the despots with cash has just postponed the inevitable regime change from within.

We should restrict aid efforts to emergency relief for particular natural disasters then we should bugger off.

We need to be similar to the emergency services, responding to an exigent problem, dealing with that problem then responding to the next 911 call somewhere else when it comes.

Leave the nation building to those within that nation and keep our cash in our pockets.


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