[DrCaleb]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

No, I'm trying to convince you that none of the treatment that Ms. Wenzou or China's response to that by Canadian officials, is politically motivated and never will be. Neither should her extradition hearing be. As I showed, Wenzou's lawyers are the ones dragging it out for years by challenging decisions to the BC Supreme court. If the extradition request were baseless, then accept extradition and fight it in the US.

Well we disagree there. It was absolutely politically motivated. Normally this would be difficult to prove, but in this instance Trump stated so publicly.

The motivation by twice impeached private citizen is irrelevant. We have a responsibility under treaty to extradite people wanted for crimes by our allies, and that process is not politically motivated but subject to the rule of law. Her treatment is not political, but in accordance with those treaties.

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Regardless, it's in its final stages now and up to the presiding judge, barring intervention by the federal Minister of Justice.

Yup.

Crown claims Meng Wanzhou's 'dishonesty' sits at the heart of fraud alleged in extradition request

[Zipperfish]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

The motivation by twice impeached private citizen is irrelevant.

That's the Crown's contention, and a ludicrous one. Trump was President of the United States at the time he made that statement. Canada should have declared misconduct then and there.

$1:

We have a responsibility under treaty to extradite people wanted for crimes by our allies, and that process is not politically motivated

I don't think Canada's involvement has been very politically motivated. But in the US it certainly seems to be the case.

[DrCaleb]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

The motivation by twice impeached private citizen is irrelevant.

That's the Crown's contention, and a ludicrous one. Trump was President of the United States at the time he made that statement. Canada should have declared misconduct then and there.

I say his motivation is irrelevant, because the request came through the Justice Department, and proper channels. Whatever the reason was, the request was done properly.

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

$1:

We have a responsibility under treaty to extradite people wanted for crimes by our allies, and that process is not politically motivated

I don't think Canada's involvement has been very politically motivated. But in the US it certainly seems to be the case.

Absolutely! If twice impeached private citizen hadn't arbitrarily ended the nuclear treaty with Iran, then Chinese Tech company wouldn't have violated the rules prohibiting banking with Iran. And the US is also arbitrarily enforcing sanctions against Iran that the rest of the world doesn't.

Totally politically motivated.

[bootlegga]

llama66 llama66:

Even if Meng is released, China will not reciprocate. We should prepare for conflict. Its not a question of "if" but "when" at this point.

Yep, our first step should be boycotting the Winter Olympics in Beijing next year and issuing a travel advisory for all Canadians to leave China immediately. As much as I'd like to see a hockey gold next year, some things take priority.

After they retaliate and ban our imports, we should formally recognize Taiwan and formally cut off all ties with the PRC. That's a huge step, but the reality is that Taiwan is a country by pretty much all measurable metrics (government, armed forces, trade, etc.), and as a democracy, they deserve recognition. Canada was one of the first nations to recognize the PRC, which I think is safe to say was a huge mistake, so let's be the first large country to formally recognize Taiwan.

I know we're a small nation, but if it was right to stand up to Germany in 1939, then it's right to stand up to China in 2021.

[bootlegga]

[bootlegga]

Beijing shoves Canada's China problem into the path of Trudeau's reelection quest

[bootlegga]

Chinese state-owned shipbuilder tapped to supply ferry for Crown corporation as Canadians remain jailed

[DrCaleb]

bootlegga bootlegga:

[Sunnyways]

We should have avoided getting involved in this mess, perhaps by ‘neglecting’ to apprehend Meng at the airport. She’s not accused of a heinous crime and I’m sure Huawei have done far worse over the years. We knew that arresting an oligarch’s daughter would create a stink. Furthermore, Trump insinuating Meng could be cynically used as a bargaining chip undermined the credibility of the proceedings. All water under the bridge now. The process must play out under our laws. With that said, we should be careful about such cases in future. The PRC shows no respect for its own people and will not hesitate to take more foreign hostages from countries other than the US. Things look like they’re going to get worse in China with kids having to waste even more time on the absurd ‘thoughts’ of the big man who looks like he’s not heading into retirement any time soon. Fascism with Chinese characteristics:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58301575