[DrCaleb]

Brenda Brenda:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Brenda Brenda:

I think Segno is the one attacking people personally.

His calling people 'anti-vaxers' is indeed turning people emotional toward him. But offhand, I can't remember him using the sort of insults that have been used against him.

He's trying to not make it personal, from my perspective at least.

I guess you missed the part where he called me a "bad mother"?

sengo sengo:

"I suggested that an individual who favoured exposing their children to diseases that claim hundreds of lives a year was not necessarily acting i the best intrest of her children."

He didn't, but you still took it personally because he made the blunder of using 'her' instead of 'their' and made it appear to be directed at you. It's his opinion. That opinion may be incorrect, but it's still just an opinion.

It may also be in the best interests of the child to not be exposed to the vaccine, especially if that child is allergic to eggs. That doesn't mean anyone is a bad parent, something missing from his opinion.

[Akhenaten]

sengo sengo:

I quoted a post that you made, and gave the exact date/time you made it. You turned around and denied you made it. Anyone with 30 seconds of time could tell you were lying.

No you're lying. Why should we look it up? any fool can link us straight to it.

Here's the post you ignore:

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

segno segno:

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

If you could read professor you'd know I'm not "anti-vaccination" -

2009-10-27, 11:55:37 - You posted a quote from a doctor indicating influenza vaccine does 'not save lives', a quote that is contradicted by multiple studies, many of which have been posted on this site.

Um. No I didn't.

$1:

2009-10-27, 12:10:24 - You made a post about the influenza vaccine saying "no thanks"

Since you got the frist one wrong Im not going to look that up, but yes, I'm not going to take the vaccine. That doesn't make me 'anti-vaccine'.

No that I look it up, that was PublicAnimalNo9 and he didn't say anything like that.

i did say this though:

$1:

Every year a slightly new strain and a doomsday prediction. Every year it blows over, with or without a vaccination. I don't think vaccination is a dirty word. I don't think people shouldn't be vaccinated. If I were over 55 or had children I would probably vaccinate. But I'm not taking a 1 in 3 chance by not vaccinating. The suggestion is laughable. At least it is for anyone with a memory that stretches back more than 12 months.

That was today...directed to you...it's obviously anti-vacination

Nice try professor. Have a good night.

Please find those posts I made liar. 2009-10-27, 12:10:24 and 2009-10-27, 11:55:37

[DrCaleb]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

DrCaleb

$1:

I see nothing from him that quite rises to this level of personal attack. I can't see anything from him that rises to any level of 'personal attack'.

Very next post:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

They attack you personally, because you do the same thing to them by labelling them 'anti-vaxers'. It's attacking their opinion, just the same as they are doing to you.

k, whatever.

Are you having difficulty in distinguishing 'him' from 'they'? Should I stop using pronouns, and use proper usernames?

[Akhenaten]

sengo sengo:

Nobody here claimed that everyone wanting a vaccination took the time to examine the evidence.

sengo sengo:

Pro-vaxers first examine the evidence (multiple studies, all showing no serious side effects) and base their conclusion on that.

Doesn't even know what he says one minute to the next and hasn't the foggiest notion what others are saying.

yep. A real 'critical thinker'.




DrCaleb: yeah whatever. he doesn't make personal attacks....he does make personal attacks. Whenever you're ready to decide i'll decide if I care.

[DrCaleb]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

Dr>Celeb:

$1:

Dude, you are the only one repeating that disproven argument, so they are your assertions.

(sigh) Okay now you're just making crap up as you go along.

Now, that's what I'm taking about. You want to 'debate', yet you decide to play around with the spelling of my username in an attempt to make me angry. Who's the troll again?

I'm not making it up. I went back and read the last 8 pages, and you are the only one blathering on about SARS and flu epidemics that never were.

HAND.

[Akhenaten]

$1:

I went back and read the last 8 pages, and you are the only one blathering on about SARS and flu epidemics that never were.

yeah that's sooooo off topic lol.

HAND

[Akhenaten]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

segno segno:

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

If you could read professor you'd know I'm not "anti-vaccination" -

2009-10-27, 11:55:37 - You posted a quote from a doctor indicating influenza vaccine does 'not save lives', a quote that is contradicted by multiple studies, many of which have been posted on this site.

Um. No I didn't.

$1:

2009-10-27, 12:10:24 - You made a post about the influenza vaccine saying "no thanks"

Since you got the frist one wrong Im not going to look that up, but yes, I'm not going to take the vaccine. That doesn't make me 'anti-vaccine'.

No that I look it up, that was PublicAnimalNo9 and he didn't say anything like that.

i did say this though:

$1:

Every year a slightly new strain and a doomsday prediction. Every year it blows over, with or without a vaccination. I don't think vaccination is a dirty word. I don't think people shouldn't be vaccinated. If I were over 55 or had children I would probably vaccinate. But I'm not taking a 1 in 3 chance by not vaccinating. The suggestion is laughable. At least it is for anyone with a memory that stretches back more than 12 months.

That was today...directed to you...it's obviously anti-vacination

[Akhenaten]

<cricket sounds>

Yeah that's what I thought.

[DrCaleb]

You had some sort of point?

[Akhenaten]

Do you really have that much trouble following a 15 minute/4 post stream of conversation? I don't think so> You're smarter than that.

[Strutz]

Wow, this has turned into quite the amazing thread for something that occurs every year but with a different label. As I started to read through this (took awhile) there were several posters I was going to quote and respond to. That would take far too long now so I'll just state my humble little opinion and move on.

I am not getting the shot. Never have. Only once have I caught the "major" flu of the season and that was about 8 years ago and yes, I was very sick for about a week (no hospital though) and it probably took me a month to recover. Not bad, considering I lived with a spouse for 18 years that worked in healthcare and was very often was in direct contact with patients and visitors. Not to mention the not-so-healthy lifestyle I used to lead.

I refuse to fall into the fear mongering trap that the media like to set to get everyone all excited and up in arms. Stats and reports from different sources that contradict each other...no wonder so many are confused.

I do agree with a comment already made here about medication actually weakening your own natural defences. Personally, I have found that I don't even catch the common cold as often as I once did since I stopped taking medication for every sniffle. If I do get sick I let the virus run it's course, which it will anyway, meds or not. I will rarely even take anything for a headache as there are non-medicinal ways to rid yourself of this without putting unknown chemicals in your body. I have gotten much better at eating healthier foods, allowing myself more sleep time and taking the simple precautions such as hand-washing.

I hope all of you survive the flu season whether you get the flu shot or not, this is your personal choice to make.
Do what you feel is right for you, not what other posters are promoting.

[DrCaleb]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

Do you really have that much trouble following a 15 minute/4 post stream of conversation? I don't think so> You're smarter than that.

I appreciate the compliment, but I still do not see you asking anything requiring a response, or whom you are expecting that to come from. So the crickets might keep chirping.

[Akhenaten]

Dude. 3 times now sengo has lied about my comments. He ignored it yesterday when I called him on it and then makes the same lie today and accuses me of lying. I know an accusation of lying just goes right over the heads of others here but I take it seriously. I am sincere in my posts and freely admit it when I'm wrong. I've done that like a half a dozen times here. I ask him to prove it again and he disappears just like he did yesterday.

He doesn't know what he's saying.
He doesn't know what others are saying.
He's a real 'critical thinker'.

[segno]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

Do you really have that much trouble following a 15 minute/4 post stream of conversation? I don't think so> You're smarter than that.

I appreciate the compliment, but I still do not see you asking anything requiring a response, or whom you are expecting that to come from. So the crickets might keep chirping.

He's probably referring to part of the thread where I pointed out a specific anti-vaccination statement he made where he quoted a doctor saying "Influenza vaccines are ineffective".

I gave the exact date and time he made the post, yet he has repeatedly called me a 'liar', claiming he never never made that post, and somehow demanding 'proof'.

Its nothing but a troll game he's playing.

[Akhenaten]

Nice try but you are lying. Anyone with two brain cells would show us those posts. Go ahead. Where are they sengo? Can't find them? or just dont' want to admit you're wrong?

here you go lying again. Pretty weak. You posted the times and i've reposted them because I have nothign to hide. Why can't you come up with them and prove it?

Here they are again:

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

segno segno:

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

If you could read professor you'd know I'm not "anti-vaccination" -

2009-10-27, 11:55:37 - You posted a quote from a doctor indicating influenza vaccine does 'not save lives', a quote that is contradicted by multiple studies, many of which have been posted on this site.

Um. No I didn't.

sengo sengo:

2009-10-27, 12:10:24 - You made a post about the influenza vaccine saying "no thanks"

Since you got the frist one wrong Im not going to look that up, but yes, I'm not going to take the vaccine. That doesn't make me 'anti-vaccine'.

No that I look it up, that was PublicAnimalNo9 and he didn't say anything like that.

i did say this though:

$1:

Every year a slightly new strain and a doomsday prediction. Every year it blows over, with or without a vaccination. I don't think vaccination is a dirty word. I don't think people shouldn't be vaccinated. If I were over 55 or had children I would probably vaccinate. But I'm not taking a 1 in 3 chance by not vaccinating. The suggestion is laughable. At least it is for anyone with a memory that stretches back more than 12 months.

That was today...directed to you...it's obviously anti-vacination

you're right. Anyone can look them up and I urge them to do so. Find out what kind of liar sengo is.

$1:

Its nothing but a troll game he's playing.

Nope that's you.