[Gunnair]

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Public schools instill secular humanism, which, though not referred to as such, is basically a religion. Kind of nice Jesus-y Christianity without the Jesus.

How does teaching universal morals, ethics and the necessity of the Golden Rule in a civil society even remotely resemble a religion?!?

Religion is essentially the same thing with some stories attached to them.

[ShepherdsDog]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Public schools instill secular humanism, which, though not referred to as such, is basically a religion. Kind of nice Jesus-y Christianity without the Jesus.

I always referred to Communism as secular Christianity...both are nice on paper and promise a utopian egalitarian society watched over by those who truly love you, and have your best interest at heart. But in practise both abuse their trust and authority making life a living hell for many under their control

[CanadianJeff]

PJB PJB:

For those who want to bitch about Catholic schools which teach the EXACT same thing as public schools better be willing to shut up when there are Muslim and Hindi and other religious schools. I am so happy that my children had the opportunity to attend Catholic schools because not only did they learn their ABC's and 123's but they also learned about compassion and acceptance. A couple of things that some posters on here do not seem to have.

First of all your begging the question that your kids wouldn't have learned the same thing in a public school especially regarding how they treat others.

Secondly the Catholic schools do vary on a few things in terms of teaching not the least of which is sex ed. Not to mention in my experience public schools offer a vast range of more options for secondary language classes then Catholic schools. I switched systems when I was a kid to drop religion class for French. Even my limited French has proven far more useful then anything I learned in religious classes since I was in church 7 nights a week as a kid.

So your wrong on both points.

The really funny bit though is that if you were correct then there would be no point to Catholic schools as they wouldn't have any fundamental point from public schools.

[Tricks]

Proponents of the Catholic system claim the students are better taught. And Sex ed is taught the same now, at least in Ontario. It was legislated a couple years ago.

[Lemmy]

PJB PJB:

For those who want to bitch about Catholic schools which teach the EXACT same thing as public schools.

A common curriculum doesn't mean "teach the exact same thing". Two teachers of the same course in the same school on the same day are teaching the same curriculum without teaching them anything close to "the exact same thing".

[EyeBrock]

People forget that the Catholic system was a BNA thing. The Brocklettes go to Left-Footer schools. If I had to endure it so should they, plus it's my constitutional right to send them there.

Those wanting other religions, golden calves and other craven images to worship in a tax-payer funded school system should have been here in 1867.

[CanadianJeff]

By that logic women should have spoken up hundreds of years before they did and should just give up on having the right to vote and demanding equal treatment.

An idea does not somehow become better simply because it's old. Ideas have to stand on their own merits.

[EyeBrock]

I was being a tad sarcastic Jeff.

But we shouldn't lose sight of the fact the rights given to Catholics have a history longer than Canada and were granted for a good reason within the BNA.

People tend to forget that this country does have a history that predates the more recent clamour for individual rights versus already established rights.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Thanos Thanos:

Catholic schools churn out Catholic schoolgirls, which is nothing short of awesome with those short skirts and all that innate Irish/Italian/French wildness in them. [/perv]

I like the part where Catholic school is supposed to teach the kids about respecting authority and living in a Godly manner, but the Catholic kids by high school are usually the wildest party animals you could ever hope to find. Always get a major laugh out of that particular phenomenon.

When I was living in Windsor, the working class neighbourhood surrounding one of the two Catholic high schools there had the highest daytime break and enter rate in the city. It wasn't coincidental.

[ShepherdsDog]

Well if all you have to do is a quick, 'Father forgive me for I have sinned..', then you don't have to really dwell on the consequences of your actions.

[CanadianJeff]

There is a reason gangbangers love to wear large crosses around their necks.

That and I'm sorry Eyebrock you have always struck me as rather smarter then that but in my defense that was posted after a long day at work.

Here's a virtual pint.

[EyeBrock]

No probs Jeff!