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Title: Did coronavirus leak from a research lab in Wuhan'Startling new theory is 'no longer discounted'
Category: World
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2020-04-05 00:34:30

[DrCaleb]

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[Tricks]

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[BartSimpson]

I think it's too soon to rule out the possibility that this was from a lab. Not even the Chinese are sticking to the prior narrative that it came from the wet market...which is now open again as a clear indicator that the Chinese have cleared it as a source.

[Freakinoldguy]

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If you're going to put this warning on the unproven accusations about this virus coming from a Wuhan weapons lab would you be so kind as to do so with the claim that it came from a "wet market bat" because up to now that theory is just about as reliable as the laboratory one.

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According to a pre-print of the research paper published by Botao Xiao and Lei Xiao titled, “The possible origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus,” “In summary, somebody was entangled with the evolution of 2019-nCoV coronavirus. In addition to origins of natural recombination and intermediate host, the killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan.”

A smoking gun conclusion if there ever was one.

Ground Zero for the outbreak near China’s only top-level virology lab
The report and its conclusions, according to Harvard To The Big House, “is the product of a collaboration between a retired professional scientist” with more than three decades’ worth of experience in genome sequencing and analysis, who also helped design “several…bioinformatic software tools,” as well as a former NSA counterterrorism analyst.

https://biologicalweapons.news/2020-02- ... wuhan.html

[N_Fiddledog]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

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If you're going to put this warning on the unproven accusations about this virus coming from a Wuhan weapons lab would you be so kind as to do so with the claim that it came from a "wet market bat" because up to now that theory is just about as reliable as the laboratory one.

Abs-o-fricken-loutely. What's with the Mark stupid Zuckerberg like policy, anyway. Is this Facebook now?

[DrCaleb]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

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If you're going to put this warning on the unproven accusations about this virus coming from a Wuhan weapons lab would you be so kind as to do so with the claim that it came from a "wet market bat" because up to now that theory is just about as reliable as the laboratory one.

It's tough to keep ahead of all the conspiracy theories right now. But when I recognize one that is making the current rounds, I will definitely flag it as such.

Do you have any sort of reliable information that contradicts the CDC?

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COVID-19 Emergence

COVID-19 is caused by a coronavirus. Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses that are common in people and many different species of animals, including camels, cattle, cats, and bats. Rarely, animal coronaviruses can infect people and then spread between people such as with MERS-CoV, SARS-CoV, and now with this new virus (named SARS-CoV-2).

The SARS-CoV-2 virus is a betacoronavirus, like MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV. All three of these viruses have their origins in bats. The sequences from U.S. patients are similar to the one that China initially posted, suggesting a likely single, recent emergence of this virus from an animal reservoir.

Early on, many of the patients at the epicenter of the outbreak in Wuhan, Hubei Province, China had some link to a large seafood and live animal market, suggesting animal-to-person spread. Later, a growing number of patients reportedly did not have exposure to animal markets, indicating person-to-person spread. Person-to-person spread was subsequently reported outside Hubei and in countries outside China, including in the United States. Some international destinations now have ongoing community spread with the virus that causes COVID-19, as do some parts of the United States. Community spread means some people have been infected and it is not known how or where they became exposed. Learn more about the spread of this newly emerged coronavirus.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... mmary.html

[N_Fiddledog]

And where's the snotty disclaimer for this recent example of partisan hackery linking to a story from the Huffington Post?

viewtopic.php?t=124049

As far as the Wuhan virus goes China did it. Some of us would like to know all the possibilities as to how they did it, if they had a reason, or if it was just incompetence and what China is doing now.


NY Post: Trump administration weighs legal action over alleged Chinese hoarding of PPE

Clarion Institute: China's Fake News: Its 'Superior System' Defeats Coronavirus

National Post: Ottawa won’t admit Canada’s COVID-19 plan is made from counterfeit Chinese parts

PJ Media: Communist China Was Always One Lab Accident Away From Becoming a Supervillain

Western Journal: China Using Coronavirus Masks as Bribery to Push Business Interests, Congressman Says

PJW on BitChute: GLOBAL PANDEMIC COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF CHINA HAD ACTED SOONER

Clash Daily: China Was Buying Up Global Stock Of Medical Gear Weeks BEFORE Admitting Coronavirus Was An Epidemic

Breitbart: Fauci: China’s ‘Delay in Transparency’ ‘Likely’ Prevented Other Countries from Restricting Travel

Oh and if we're still on this kick of you can't blame China for China's virus because racism - would you like to see actual racism so you can tell the difference?



But we're not allowed to know any of that, right? We can only know what these guys say about the Chinese Communist virus:

[bootlegga]

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[N_Fiddledog]

Yes, yes we know...there are chi-com fans who would like to give censors of wrongthink on China's virus a thumbs up.

But I just realized, I forgot to edit the extra https out of the link on the news page so you weren't able to able actually read it.

So if anybody would like to know what they're being told not to read, it's here:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... unted.html

Starts like this:

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Ministers fear that the coronavirus pandemic might have been caused by a leak from a Chinese laboratory, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Senior Government sources say that while 'the balance of scientific advice' is still that the deadly virus was first transmitted to humans from a live animal market in Wuhan, a leak from a laboratory in the Chinese city is 'no longer being discounted'.

[bootlegga]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Yes, yes we know...there are Alex Jones fans like myself who would like to hear every crackpot conspiracy theory in the universe about the Wuhan virus.

FTFY

And guess what, you still can. All DrC did was provide a warning that there MAY be misinformation in this thread. The warning in no way stops you from filling your boots in any conspiracy theories.

[N_Fiddledog]

Actually I had edited my own post to take out the nasty but if you want to get at it, here's the original:

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Yes, yes we know...there are chi-com fans who would like to give censors of wrongthink on China's virus a good fluffing thumbs up.

And what "misinformation"? If you're going to talk crap specify you crap.

[N_Fiddledog]

Here I'll start you off Boots because we know have problems putting a reasoned, fact-based argument together.

The story does only offer an anonymous source:

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One member of Cobra, the emergency committee led by Boris Johnson, said last night that while the latest intelligence did not dispute the virus was 'zoonotic' – originating in animals – it did not rule out that the virus first spread to humans after leaking from a Wuhan laboratory.

The member of Cobra, which receives detailed classified briefings from the security services, said: 'There is a credible alternative view [to the zoonotic theory] based on the nature of the virus. Perhaps it is no coincidence that there is that laboratory in Wuhan. It is not discounted.'

Very well, are we going to start censoring all stories that rely on anonymous sources. You might want to check with your fake news media before you start pushing that one.

[raydan]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Here I'll start you off Boots because we know have problems putting a reasoned, fact-based argument together.

It's so easy to recognize our own faults in other people.

[DrCaleb]

raydan raydan:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Here I'll start you off Boots because we know have problems putting a reasoned, fact-based argument together.

It's so easy to recognize our own faults in other people.

It's cute that he thinks there is an argument. Viruses propagate by re-writing the DNA of a host to match their own, but they do it incompletely. So the virus contains the DNA of it's host, and there is no argument to that.

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COVID-19 and the SARS-CoV have a common ancestor, a bat coronavirus. But COVID-19 is actually closer to the bat virus, sharing 96% of its genome sequence, compared to about 86% with SARS-CoV. And muddying the waters further, COVID-19’s spike gene shares a 39-base insertion with a type of soldierfish that swims in the South China Sea.

Somehow, the virus that evolved into COVID-19 may have started in a bat in 2013 and gotten into fish that ended up in the Wuhan Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market at the epicenter of the pandemic.

https://blogs.plos.org/dnascience/2020/ ... he-spikes/

So people are free to speculate on the source of the virus, but it can't change the DNA in the virus. No argument can change the origins of the virus.