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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:15 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: stratos stratos: I did not read the whole article but I would like to have something along the lines of a 6 month waiting period. Patient John/Jane Doe expresses the desire that they want assisted suicide to their Dr. 6 months later if they still so desire this then they may proceed. I'm not trying to be cruel I would really like for the patient to have a while to really think this over once the preverbal clock starts ticking. There are conditions where 6 days would be torture, let alone 6 months. I wouldn't put a time limit on it. If a doctor is convinced the consent is informed, there should only be the delay the patient asks for. Right. So a doctor can kill a Canadian citizen to prevent suffering but if a Canadian soldier finishes off some jihadi who's been blown in half then he'll be courts martialed for a human rights violation. 
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:16 am
2Cdo beat you to that punchline.
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andyt
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:19 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: andyt andyt: The dam has been breached. Yahoo. I sincerely hope you have the opportunity to benefit from this decision. Pretty vicious stuff there, Bart, to wish intolerable suffering on me.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:19 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: Good news, we can now give Grandma the same consideration we give Fido. We choose to put Fido to sleep.....Fido has no say in the matter. This is all about Grandma being allowed to choose how she wants to end her life. I wonder what kind of impact, if any, this will have on life insurance. 
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:21 am
andyt andyt: BartSimpson BartSimpson: andyt andyt: The dam has been breached. Yahoo. I sincerely hope you have the opportunity to benefit from this decision. Pretty vicious stuff there, Bart, to wish intolerable suffering on me. I don't think that's what he was wishing you at all. I believe he was wishing you would partake in this new decision. 
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andyt
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:25 am
just what do you think suicide is, something to do for shits and giggles?
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:34 am
$1: I wonder what kind of impact, if any, this will have on life insurance.
There are already policies that cover suicide (for example, my workplace insurance does and I think it's become standard)....the catch is that loss due to suicide is not covered if it occurs withing the first x number of years of coverage. The logic is that suicide is really just the fatal outcome of an unplanned illness like any other death by disease so it should be covered; OTOH you don't want suicidal people taking out policies just so they can kill themselves and leave cash for the family. However, not many suicidal people would buy life insurance today with the delierate intention of killing themselves 5 years from now...and even if that was their intent, the odds of them making it those 5 years witout getting help or succumbing to their sucidial tendancy permaturely make it a negiligible risk to the insurer. I think at the very least you will be able to eventually buy Life insurance with or witout the coverage
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:06 pm
This is good news for my mom.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:21 pm
andyt andyt: Pretty vicious stuff there, Bart, to wish intolerable suffering on me. Not at all. I'm just passing along my sincere best wishes that you get to benefit from the policies that you promote. Or is this only a good policy to you when it applies to other people?
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:22 pm
BeaverFever BeaverFever: 2Cdo beat you to that punchline. I'm not seeing that.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:28 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: BeaverFever BeaverFever: 2Cdo beat you to that punchline. I'm not seeing that. He's probably referring to this. 2Cdo 2Cdo: Well, here's hoping the "progressives" use this to the fullest. 
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:32 pm
The right to die, or to choose the manner and moment of one's death, should be seen as the paramount right of all rights. All the other rights are basically a chimera anyway, just another odious type of faith in something that isn't real anyway. Humans love illusions. It's the only explanation for the ongoing group-psychosis that energizes us to create so many of them. From making up false gods to explain the thunder to actually believing that 99% of us aren't slaves to an unbeatable elite that will always enslave the rest of us. All is false. All is bullshit. All rights can be stripped away in a second by anyone with a gun in their hands, or by any government that wants to strip every single thing away from you that they can before they toss you on the heap with all the other expendables. That's life. That's the human race right there. That's why practically everyone keeps taking the blue pill because acknowledging the truth simply hurts too much. Dying though? That will always be in your own hands. There should be, and always should have been, a black pill option to go along with the blue or the red. And damn God forever if it thinks that your life belongs to it instead of to you. It can strip away every single thing, every last remaining bit of pride from me all it wants. By my life? I decide when to leave. I decide when I no longer want to be here. I decide when I've had enough and want to put a stop to all the bullshit. I decide. It doesn't. It DOES NOT ever take that away me, and I'll spit right in it's fucking evil, cruel, heartless & utterly merciless fucking face if it thinks it will. 
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:17 pm
Thanos Thanos: The right to die, or to choose the manner and moment of one's death, should be seen as the paramount right of all rights. I find the right to life is the paramount right as no other right has meaning without the right to live.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:03 pm
$1: He's probably referring to this.
2Cdo wrote:
Well, here's hoping the "progressives" use this to the fullest.
Yep
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:54 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Thanos Thanos: The right to die, or to choose the manner and moment of one's death, should be seen as the paramount right of all rights. I find the right to life is the paramount right as no other right has meaning without the right to live. I think the right to die/right to death cover the same thing. I agree with Thanos that it is the individual's right to choose when he/she dies. All other rights stem from this.
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