Gunnair Gunnair:
Anyway, this all leads to the question, that I posed: What is the percentage of bad guys in a group that should result in labeling the whole of the group?
These discussions are so much more fun when we throw in reasonable stats and questions. It gets all exciting.
Doesn't it though?
It doesn't actually take stats though, to show the broad-based influence of radical Islam. You can see it outside your door.
The American-Canadian border used to be open. Now you need a passport. Radical Islam. If you go to an American airport they're skin-frisking children and little old ladies. Radical Islam.
The actual size of the membership of radical Islam matters less than it's effect, but size does matter, and ultimately the size that matters comes with the actual size of Islam within a community, not just radical Islam. I'll show you why.
It's like this. In my personal locality there aren't many Muslims. We all get along great from my POV. In York on the outskirts of Toronto there is a higher percentage of Muslim to Infidel. So we start hearing stories like the story of 'Little Ricky', the Muslim police man representing a larger organization who intimidated a Rabbi into disallowing anti-Jihad speakers at his temple, or stories of the Muslim groups at the nearby University who won't allow speakers offering say the Israeli viewpoint of the Palestinian situation.
In Dearborn Michigan, the percentage of the Muslim population is higher still, so if you can go on YouTube and find vids of Christian street preachers getting pelted by bottles. The police jailed the preachers for preaching.
In Europe there is a larger general percentage of Islam to infidel, although the percentage of radical Islam remains the same. Nevertheless now you have populations intimidated out of older areas, intimidation of women by sex crimes the government is reluctant to deal with for fears of being called racist, the government yields to far left and Islamic pressure groups by pressuring the general population for committing thought or speech crimes against Islam. England is no longer England. It's not the general Muslim population that's responsible for all this. It's the radicals, and the radicals pretending to be moderates, but their actual percentage of population is still very small, even in Europe. Still its influence is increased by an increase of the general Muslim population.
Again how many actual Nazis did it take to take over Germany? Then what happened?
Here's the thing though, if you don't recognize there's a problem, you can't deal with it. Take the EDL in Britain for example. They're a grassroots organization of the British common man who feel they've been pushed too far by the effects of a radical ideology that is incrementally taking over its country and neighborhoods to their detriment. If you actually listen to what they're actually saying, they're not unreasonable. The media calls bigot, but if you actually listen, they're not actually saying anything racist. You're not allowed to listen to them though. You get screamed down as a bigot if you listen to Tommy Robinson, and say, "Hey, that guy kind of makes sense." The bottle throwing anarchists who oppose the EDL then become the media heroes. Up is down, down is up, and Sharia is on its way in Britain. All because you can't say 'Muslim and problem' in the same sentence.
I look outside my door and I see a garden, and deer, and my Tundra. The not so free border is a result of both radical Islam and a culture of fear whipped up by those who can make money off of it. People will throw their rights away in bundles for the illusion of safety even when they are already safe ( remember more like likely to die by a meteorite than a jihadi bomb vest.
Ultimately, you can blame some of the cultural changes on radical Islam, but the west, whipped up by fear mongerers double tapped themselves into a society that loses in bit more of it's freedom, and by lose I mean hand in, every day.
Frankly, I think the west should show some accountability and take responsibility for the culture they kneejerked themselves into over the last 12 years.