[PublicAnimalNo9]

andyt andyt:

commanderkai commanderkai:

Remember when I mentioned that you had a bad tendency to deflect serious faults of Islam by attempting to tarnish Christianity? Here's another case. The article does not mention in any way that this guy was a Christian nor did he get any inspiration for his acts from the Bible.

You got me. I assumed that when the judge said

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"The man is evil incarnate. He is a monster. It is said that the devil can cite scripture for his own use. That is certainly the case here."

she was referring to the bible. I've never heard other religions call their books scripture.

SO naturally that means they don't? According to Merriam-Websters, "scripture" is simply defined as, "the sacred writings of a religion".

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

So the Vancouver Sun says he got 1 year for beating the son, to be served concurrently. What is the point of even having a trial with a sentence like that?

He knows the Crown is very, very cross with him. That should set him straight.

[commanderkai]

This is a perfect example of what you do Andy. Instead of bringing attention to the horribly evil acts this man did, and the pitiful sentence he received, you made this somehow about his possible religion, alienating and irritating just about everybody who might have Christian leanings, or even a basic acceptance or respect of Christianity in their heritage or life.

[PluggyRug]

andyt andyt:

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andyt andyt:

Nope. And he wouldn't fit into any Muslim group either. Islam has big problems. Far too many of its adherents follow barbaric practices and are intolerant of other religions. But when you only focus on those, don't reach out to Muslims who are living perfectly peaceful lives as good citizens, you just make those problems worse. When you harp over and over on the evil done by Muslims, and only by Muslims, you're making the problems worse.

There is a lot of outreach to Muslims and he result is..........?

The success of the RCMP that stopped at least two terror plots that were reported by Muslims. The fact that the more peaceful Muslims feel accepted the more they are likely to do this.

Vs just demonizing them all, over and over looking for stories of some outrage anywhere in the world.

In BC we have Christians "marrying" underage girls in polygamous marriages. Does this mean that all Christians do this? Of course not. When some Muslims do evil, does it mean all Muslims support this? Of course not.

....and yet it does nothing to stop the many daily acts of violence committed by the radicals. How can you equate polygamous marriage to bombing innocent people?

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

andyt andyt:

So the Vancouver Sun says he got 1 year for beating the son, to be served concurrently. What is the point of even having a trial with a sentence like that?

He knows the Crown is very, very cross with him. That should set him straight.

Maybe the 1 year sentence is OK, especially since he pled guilty.. But it should be tacked on at the end of his 16 yr sentence. If I was Harper this is an area I would be tough on crime - reduce or even eliminate concurrently served sentences.

[andyt]

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andyt andyt:

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There is a lot of outreach to Muslims and he result is..........?

The success of the RCMP that stopped at least two terror plots that were reported by Muslims. The fact that the more peaceful Muslims feel accepted the more they are likely to do this.

Vs just demonizing them all, over and over looking for stories of some outrage anywhere in the world.

In BC we have Christians "marrying" underage girls in polygamous marriages. Does this mean that all Christians do this? Of course not. When some Muslims do evil, does it mean all Muslims support this? Of course not.

....and yet it does nothing to stop the many daily acts of violence committed by the radicals. How can you equate polygamous marriage to bombing innocent people?

Can you show me where I did that?

It does reduce the violence, especially in Canada. Most Muslim violence is perpetrated on other Muslims - it's sectarian.

[herbie]

You guys are funny arguing about if he's a Christian and what he "only" got for spanking his stepson.
The sick fuck diddled and abused his stepdaughters in one of the most disgusting trials in this whole area. If he even outlives his sentence for that he's gonna be a prisoner in a nursing home.
The guy was supposedly one of those religious disciplinarian types. Who gives a shit if he's Christian or a JoHo or a Rastafarian? The brand of hypocrite is irrelevant.

[andyt]

commanderkai commanderkai:

This is a perfect example of what you do Andy. Instead of bringing attention to the horribly evil acts this man did, and the pitiful sentence he received, you made this somehow about his possible religion, alienating and irritating just about everybody who might have Christian leanings, or even a basic acceptance or respect of Christianity in their heritage or life.

As is done on a regular basis here with Muslims. You just react differently because with Christians it affects you personally. Exactly my point.

[Zipperfish]

The left jumps in if it's Christian, the right jumps in if it's Muslim. Same shit, different pile.

[Strutz]

herbie herbie:

You guys are funny arguing about if he's a Christian and what he "only" got for spanking his stepson.
The sick fuck diddled and abused his stepdaughters in one of the most disgusting trials in this whole area. If he even outlives his sentence for that he's gonna be a prisoner in a nursing home.
The guy was supposedly one of those religious disciplinarian types. Who gives a shit if he's Christian or a JoHo or a Rastafarian? The brand of hypocrite is irrelevant.

I was about to say something similar.

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Sentencing decisions in both cases required the man to submit a DNA sample and prohibited him from owning firearm for 10 years.

What the hell is the point of firearm prohibition if he's in prison and unable to own one anyway? Seems an irrelevant condition to me.

At least I'm assuming he's doing AT LEAST 10 years by this

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...and is already serving a lengthy prison term for sexually assaulting his stepdaughters

In this asshole's case lengthy better mean life.

[andyt]

Not really a left right issue. Many Christians are left politically. Sterling example is Tommy Douglas, he most admired Canadian. This is about being open or closed minded. If you only point the finger at other religions, guess what you are? Many Muslims do that exact thing, aren't known for being open minded either. So the intolerants meet at the end of the circle, just as right and left do.

[andyt]

Strutz Strutz:

herbie herbie:

You guys are funny arguing about if he's a Christian and what he "only" got for spanking his stepson.
The sick fuck diddled and abused his stepdaughters in one of the most disgusting trials in this whole area. If he even outlives his sentence for that he's gonna be a prisoner in a nursing home.
The guy was supposedly one of those religious disciplinarian types. Who gives a shit if he's Christian or a JoHo or a Rastafarian? The brand of hypocrite is irrelevant.

I was about to say something similar.

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Sentencing decisions in both cases required the man to submit a DNA sample and prohibited him from owning firearm for 10 years.

What the hell is the point of firearm prohibition if he's in prison and unable to own one anyway? Seems an irrelevant condition to me.

At least I'm assuming he's doing AT LEAST 10 years by this

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...and is already serving a lengthy prison term for sexually assaulting his stepdaughters

In this asshole's case lengthy better mean life.

16 years, he's out on mandatory parole in 10.6 years. Depending on how long he spent in prison before trial, he could be out a lot sooner. But good point. I don't know what these judges are thinking.

He's doing 1 year for this (incase you don't know) to be served concurrently, so no extra time at all.

[N_Fiddledog]

Thanks for the morning chuckle Andy. You woke me right up. You're the tolerant one, are you. Please tell us more. Hang on, I have to go get another coffee, the last one's all over my screen.

[PluggyRug]

andyt andyt:

Can you show me where I did that?

It does reduce the violence, especially in Canada. Most Muslim violence is perpetrated on other Muslims - it's sectarian.

If you can't see the correlation then I cannot help you.

[andyt]

Absolutely. I don't condemn any religion. I recognize there are good and bad people among all religions. Atheists too. No religion has got hold of the truth vs any other. I do condemn fundamentalism in any religion.