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Title: France election: A vote for change
Category: Political
Posted By: martin14
Date: 2012-05-06 15:10:15

[martin14]

Bahhh, mods change the title please.. damn the BBC.


Anyway, this won't help the Euro at all. Hollande will try to go to the drunken spending routine,
and the markets will kick his ass.

[andyt]

martin14 martin14:

Bahhh, mods change the title please.. damn the BBC.


Anyway, this won't help the Euro at all. Hollande will try to go to the drunken spending routine,
and the markets will kick his ass.

Funny, the article said he exact opposite.

But, maybe this will drive Germany out of the EU - who wants to keep funding other people's parties. Maybe the collapse of the EU would be a good thing - it seemed to way over reach from the original premise.

[Brenda]

$1:

The truth is that if France is to bring its budget deficit down to 3% by 2013 then 18bn euros of cuts will have to be found next year. How that will be done did not receive much attention during the campaign.

Which is what Brussels wants.

$1:

He will be out to reclaim French influence over the future direction of the EU.

Thanks, but no thanks.

$1:

Part of Mr Hollande's appeal was that he promised to defend the French social model and save what is called "French exceptionalism".

"we want the good things of the EU, but the rest can keep the bad parts". Yeah...

Face it France. You too, are part of the EU and the Euro-zone. And that has turned out to have let every country lose a big part of their sovereignty. You can not change that, unless you change the whole idea of the EU. Tear it down, for instance.
The EU sucks, with Brussels only wanting to take care of themselves.

[EyeBrock]

Europe, sinking slowly into irrevelance.

[ShepherdsDog]

Without the EU Brussels will only be relevant for seekers of good chocolate and beer....again

[Brenda]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Without the EU Brussels will only be relevant for seekers of good chocolate and beer....again

Which is the only thing it is good for anyways.
And Strasbourg can go back to being a University-city. Don't forget they move back and forth between Brussels and Strasbourg every month... Any idea what that costs?

Sales tax in The Netherlands has been going up from 17.5% to 19% and will go to 20% ONLY to pay for the EU.

[EyeBrock]

They should have stuck to it being a trading block. The EU as a government makes the Senate under Caligula look useful.

[Brenda]

I totally agree with you.

Oh, I was wrong. Sales tax will be going to 21% as of October 1, 2012

[Thanos]

Probably less of an embrace of socialism as much as it is a rejection of the austerity being pushed by Brussels and Berlin.

[xerxes]

And Athens too. Parliamentary elections in Greece turfed the ruling party in another rejection of austerity.

[Brenda]

The new government of Greece will have to do some serious digging for money tho. Europe has had it with bailing them lazy ungrateful bastards out, taking everyone down with them.
Then, they have Italy, Spain, Ireland and Portugal waiting to follow. Who's going to pay for all that shit? Right. France, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg and that is about it. They can carry the whole EU, including the poor Eastern European countries, until they can't anymore. And the moment that they cannot carry that weight anymore, is near...

[andyt]

Geez, Brenda. If you can't even be bothered to spell though properly, why should anybody take you seriously?

[Brenda]

I wasn't aware anyone did anyway

[EyeBrock]

Brenda Brenda:

The new government of Greece will have to do some serious digging for money tho. Europe has had it with bailing them lazy ungrateful bastards out, taking everyone down with them.
Then, they have Italy, Spain, Ireland and Portugal waiting to follow. Who's going to pay for all that shit? Right. France, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg and that is about it. They can carry the whole EU, including the poor Eastern European countries, until they can't anymore. And the moment that they cannot carry that weight anymore, is near...

I think even the EU governments are sussing this out. Nobody has the gonads to say it out loud in Europe but every EU citizen knows the EU is living on borrowed time as it stands now.