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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:00 pm
mtbr mtbr: RUEZ RUEZ: bootlegga bootlegga: Hey, if he was the minister of business or something then fine, but the minister of Education deals with, you guessed it...education. He/she should at least have a goddam high school diploma, if not a Bachelor's degree. How can I have faith in his decisions regarding post-secondary education when he couldn't find his way inside such an institution.
Is he doing a bad job? ask bootlegga if a conservative is doing a bad job ..what do you think is answer will be? It does seem strange to have a Minister of Education without a diploma, but if he's doing his job and he was elected fairly should we make a fuss? Is the Minister of Health a Doctor?
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:52 pm
People heard here that Ike will raise gas prices, so they started a run on the gas stations. They were lining up, sometimes 15 deep, to fill up. Prices soared from ~$3.70 to over $5. Now, half the gas stations have run out of fuel.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:58 pm
Toro Toro: People heard here that Ike will raise gas prices, so they started a run on the gas stations. They were lining up, sometimes 15 deep, to fill up. Prices soared from ~$3.70 to over $5. Now, half the gas stations have run out of fuel. and Canadians can't seem to make the connection between the two.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:24 pm
$1: Glorious Alberta, where the Minister of Education doesn't even have a high school diploma...
Hey, if he was the minister of business or something then fine, but the minister of Education deals with, you guessed it...education. He/she should at least have a goddam high school diploma, if not a Bachelor's degree. How can I have faith in his decisions regarding post-secondary education when he couldn't find his way inside such an institution.
I'm sure you would expect your supervisor to be knowledgeable in your field of expertise, not some bookworm with a PhD in quantum theory. Likewise for an education minister. How can he speak about something he has no knowledge of? Just like I would expect a doctor to actually have gone to medical school, not have learned about in the school of hard knocks by working as a janitor at a hospital.
Some of the guy's I worked with at shell back in the early 80's are running the show at the tarsands now and they were labourers back then,you tell them they should have a diploma,or how about Fred Mannix and Manalta,Loram or any of their other successfull bussiness's? No diploma there. The reason they want a grade 12 at the oilsands is to show you finished something(high school) because nowadays some kids think that jobs should fall into their laps. Only supervisor's I have where I work are in the states or Quebec and most never finished high school yet own some of the richest gold,platinum,uranium and diamond properties and mines in Canada. Also one of Alberta's best bone surgeons was a loader operator at the giant mine in yellowknife back when the big strike was on,now he's got a waiting list a year long.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:52 pm
$1: Also one of Alberta's best bone surgeons was a loader operator at the giant mine in yellowknife back when the big strike was on,now he's got a waiting list a year long. OK. most people know that blue collar doesn't mean stupid, but this last line doesn't make sense. Many university students do manual labour such as construction, roofing, painting or landscaping to finance their education.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:27 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: $1: Also one of Alberta's best bone surgeons was a loader operator at the giant mine in yellowknife back when the big strike was on,now he's got a waiting list a year long. OK. most people know that blue collar doesn't mean stupid, but this last line doesn't make sense. Many university students do manual labour such as construction, roofing, painting or landscaping to finance their education. and you sure as hell don't become a surgeon without your high school diploma.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:36 pm
I'm not sure where the connection is between working in a mine when younger and being a surgeon later in life.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:40 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: I'm not sure where the connection is between working in a mine when younger and being a surgeon later in life. Isn't that part of the internship?
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:44 pm
I thought working in an abattoir or mill would be better
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:49 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose: ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: $1: Also one of Alberta's best bone surgeons was a loader operator at the giant mine in yellowknife back when the big strike was on,now he's got a waiting list a year long. OK. most people know that blue collar doesn't mean stupid, but this last line doesn't make sense. Many university students do manual labour such as construction, roofing, painting or landscaping to finance their education. and you sure as hell don't become a surgeon without your high school diploma. He went back to school and got everything he needed.I guess i was trying to point out you need the education for some things,but not all things.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:53 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: I'm not sure where the connection is between working in a mine when younger and being a surgeon later in life. Isn't that part of the internship? It's part of life which is an internship in itself,so ya,your right.He realized when he got older that he liked helping people and you dont get cutting experience without some schooling.So he went back,did what he had to and is now very respected and sought after.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:00 pm
$1: I guess i was trying to point out you need the education for some things,but not all things. Every job requires education and training. From the people who work at McDonalds to the people who work at NASA. I'm sure you have to take up grade courses for new machinery. Mechanics are constantly, on new courses because vehicles are constantly changing and becoming more advanced. Doctors in some way are like some of the blue collar trades, because they are working with their hands and need to know the newest and best techniques to rewire and jury rig the human machine. The same goes with mechanics. I don't want some guy who hasn't taken any upgrading since 1980 working on a 2008 model car or truck.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:56 pm
Some spots in Austin have raised their prices .10cents. I got lucky and filled up Friday morning for 3.49 per gallon.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:57 pm
lily lily: mtbr mtbr: Toro Toro: People heard here that Ike will raise gas prices, so they started a run on the gas stations. They were lining up, sometimes 15 deep, to fill up. Prices soared from ~$3.70 to over $5. Now, half the gas stations have run out of fuel. and Canadians can't seem to make the connection between the two. What connection? What do you think caused the price to jump so much in such a short time? Ike? Well I see 4 major forces acting on Canadian gas prices. 1. Gas prices were artificially low compared to oil in put costs. Refineries have been making little money over the past 4 months due to squeezing margins. Prices are heading back to normal ratios. 2. Gustav and Ike have effectivly stopped 10% of the world's refining capacity. This has caused a cut in already low stockpiles(because refineries weren't making money before). 3. Canadian dollar has tumbled. The drop in oil means alot less. 4. Hoarding, or rather people filling up their gas tanks because of rumors.
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:03 am
HA! Texas Gov. want's to know why gas prices were raised up to $5.50 a gallon before the storm hit...
A plant that supplies 25% of the nations oil now off line.
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