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Wada
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:27 am
Men keep rewriting it. 
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:28 am
Who? When?
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Wada
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:37 am
Do your own research and quit asking stupid questions. 
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:40 am
I am challenging you to prove your assertion. I have done my own research, thank you, and am confident in the textual authenticity of the Biblical texts. Minor differences in translation are irrelevant if you are using the same manuscripts.
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:43 am
Should Mormons or swinger groups then have the right to sue the bible? After all the bible is against adultery and polygamy?
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:46 am
Oh, I am fine with them having the right to sue, I just want them to pay all legal fees and a fine if their case is found to be frivolous.
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:48 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish: Blue_Nose Blue_Nose: Zipperfish Zipperfish: Leviticus 20:13. If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. According to some you're allowed to ignore the embarrassing parts of the OT that you don't like because Jesus trumps them. I can understand that point of view. However, the offending passages remain, waiting for some zealots to seize upon. And the question remains: If the bible was written by god and is therefor inviolate, how can true believers simply ignore the passage? Then there's this: Matthew 5:17-18 Matthew 5:17-18: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law [ie, the OT], or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law [ie, the OT], till all be fulfilled."
-Jesus
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:54 am
And then Jesus went and stopped a crowd from stoning an adultress. Interesting way of fulfilling the law.
EDIT: Maybe there's a message about forgiveness or something he's trying to get across here?
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Wada
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:40 pm
Knew a wife that committed adultery just three days into her marriage. Her husband forgave her. Know what he got for it? A dose and a continuous adulterer for the next five years of his marriage. EDIT: So how about some practical advise. 
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:43 pm
There might also be a word or two about repentance in there too. 
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:10 pm
Pseudonym Pseudonym: And then Jesus went and stopped a crowd from stoning an adultress. Interesting way of fulfilling the law.
EDIT: Maybe there's a message about forgiveness or something he's trying to get across here? Therin lies the problem. As a written in stone book of instructures it fails miserably. It is quite evident to all but the most blind that it was never meant to be followed literally. The many factual errors, misprints and scientific errors proves that. The problem is when you interpret it as a means to a life philosophy you get many interpretations and whos to say which interpretation is correct? The koran and torah have their good parts to as well as their bad.
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:23 pm
The old Bible I have from when I was a kid, is a "King James" version. I don't read it any more, and never did take it literally...never assumed I was to kill any homosexuals or stone any adulterers. And I NEVER considered sleeping with my daighters after my first wife was turned into a pillar of salt.
I sure hadn't noticed that "men keep rewriting the Bible". Is there a "Pat Robertson" version, or a "David Koresh" version that Amazon.ca has been hiding from all of us ? In the rewritten versions, was the water turned into funny-smelling Kool-Aid ?
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:28 pm
Pseudonym Pseudonym: You don't ignore it, but you don't follow it because that is part of the Old Covenant. Same with a lot of the dictates on weaving and stuff and all the stoning laws. Do you really want to get into a discussion of Christian doctrine?
Also, this case is ridiculous. Well, it's there. It's in black and white: kill homosexuals. Kind of hard to ignore. It's like "Apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?" And agin...if the Bible was written by god and he is supposedly perfect, how can you look back and say now that the bit about killing the gays was a mistake? It doesn't add up. That's because the bible was written by men in power at the time who figured (correctly) that populations are easier to control when they think they are ruled by gods, not men. I'm not trying to dis religio0n, really. I just don't have much time for the Old Testament and I think it's silly to hold that it was written by God when it is so laughably ridiculous.
Last edited by Zipperfish on Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:33 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish: Pseudonym Pseudonym: You don't ignore it, but you don't follow it because that is part of the Old Covenant. Same with a lot of the dictates on weaving and stuff and all the stoning laws. Do you really want to get into a discussion of Christian doctrine?
Also, this case is ridiculous. Well, it's there. It's in black and white: kill hoimosexuals. Kind of hard to ignore. It's like "Apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?" Yes it is there, but the Law was overridden/fulfilled in the New Covenant. The Bible still condemns the act of homosexuality as a sin, but provides an alternate means of justification.
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:35 pm
Pseudonym Pseudonym: Zipperfish Zipperfish: Pseudonym Pseudonym: You don't ignore it, but you don't follow it because that is part of the Old Covenant. Same with a lot of the dictates on weaving and stuff and all the stoning laws. Do you really want to get into a discussion of Christian doctrine?
Also, this case is ridiculous. Well, it's there. It's in black and white: kill hoimosexuals. Kind of hard to ignore. It's like "Apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?" Yes it is there, but the Law was overridden/fulfilled in the New Covenant. The Bible still condemns the act of homosexuality as a sin, but provides an alternate means of justification. An alternate means? So killing male homosexuals remanins a valid alternative then?
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