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Posts: 10503
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:55 pm
Goober911 Goober911: llama66 llama66: Jesus... I had no idea about the attack on the family here in Calgary. I think if these people want to be stupid and pull this shit the government needs to strip them of citizenship/landed immigrant/PR and send the entire family back from whence they came, bleeding heart groups be damned.
When these thugs think its ok to attack people in the streets of Canadian cities it shows they have no regard for Canadian Morales and beliefs. We don't need them or their shit. Time to move on from the great multicultural experiment. What happens to those that are Pro Israel and commit the same offense? Then they go too. The law applies to everyone equally.
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:56 pm
Goober911 Goober911: BartSimpson BartSimpson: Goober911 Goober911: And the point being what? We know there are wackos out there. If you're asserting that this cleric is a whacko in his community then please provide us with something to substantiate your point of view. From wheer I sit it would seem that the applause that kept interrupting him speaks to the opinion of his audience. It's also fair to say that Kuwait is not precisely a bastion of free speech so if this guy is really out of line with popular thought in Kuwait then why isn't he in jail? No, everyone just love Muslims. I mean really. Try harder from where you sit. And do try harder. WTF??? ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif) Care to post this again but perhaps in English this time?
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Posts: 10503
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:58 pm
Goober911 Goober911: llama66 llama66: Not really, violence goes against the Noble Eightfold Path and whole Ahimsa (not to injure) concept (not to mention the 5 precepts). Violence in Buddhism is exception, rather than the norm. Buddhism believes in the sanctity of life, and therefore violence would mutually exclusive with the Buddhist concept of Ahimsa.
Al this is basic Buddhism. So how is it working out?? Well, Buddhists are not calling for global Jihad and the destruction of states they don't agree with, or forcing people of other religions from their homes...
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:00 pm
llama66 llama66: Goober911 Goober911: llama66 llama66: Jesus... I had no idea about the attack on the family here in Calgary. I think if these people want to be stupid and pull this shit the government needs to strip them of citizenship/landed immigrant/PR and send the entire family back from whence they came, bleeding heart groups be damned.
When these thugs think its ok to attack people in the streets of Canadian cities it shows they have no regard for Canadian Morales and beliefs. We don't need them or their shit. Time to move on from the great multicultural experiment. What happens to those that are Pro Israel and commit the same offense? Then they go too. The law applies to everyone equally. Nope. To revoke Citizenship, or landed Immigrant status is next to impossible.
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:01 pm
llama66 llama66: Goober911 Goober911: llama66 llama66: Not really, violence goes against the Noble Eightfold Path and whole Ahimsa (not to injure) concept (not to mention the 5 precepts). Violence in Buddhism is exception, rather than the norm. Buddhism believes in the sanctity of life, and therefore violence would mutually exclusive with the Buddhist concept of Ahimsa.
Al this is basic Buddhism. So how is it working out?? Well, Buddhists are not calling for global Jihad and the destruction of states they don't agree with, or forcing people of other religions from their homes... OK, so murdering local is OK? Nope they are forcing them into areas for protection, what little there is. So you condone this.
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Posts: 10503
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:07 pm
Condone what? The global Buddhist empire? violence against Christians? violence in general?
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:08 pm
Goober911 Goober911: Nope. To revoke Citizenship, or landed Immigrant status is next to impossible. Pr status can be revoked for being found guilty of a crime that carries the potential of at least 10 years. (they don't have to get the 10 years to qualify). This is an ares we should tighten up - can't keep your nose clean while a pr, it's buh bye. Immigrant status, otoh, many people can not have dual citizenship, so they would have nowhere to go back to. Just have to let the justice system deal with whatever it is they did.
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Posts: 10503
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:13 pm
Goober911 Goober911: Then they go too. The law applies to everyone equally.
Nope. To revoke Citizenship, or landed Immigrant status is next to impossible.[/quote] Its not impossible, the Canadian Government has passed bill c-24, which allows the government to strip citizenship from people accused of terrorism, treason and spying.
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:14 pm
Unsound Unsound: http://stoptheriots.ca/
Ezra's petition regarding the Calgary violence. I signed it, hope a few of you do as well.
Regardless of your position on what's going on in tghe middle east I think all Canadians should be able to agree that violent protests have no place in Canada and that police abdicating their responsibilities in this matter simply cannot stand.
In the interest of fairness, if anyone has seen any alternate views of what happened in Calgary, or seen any justification for the shameful lack of police response I'd love to see a link. So far Ezra's version is the only one I've seen. Signed it keep this shit out of Canada we don't need it, this is what Canada needs.
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:15 pm
Buddhists are not proselytisers, they don't go to war to convert others. (Neither are Jews, the only sane ones in this regard of the big monotheistic 3). In Myanmar, they are reacting against refugees from another country who should be sent home. On the whole Buddhism has been the most peaceful religion. Doesn't mean individual Buddhists are incapable of violence. Look at Thailand as an example. Including monks murdering tourists because they want their stuff. Or Korean monks battling each other for control of a monastery - embarrassing. Hard tho, to use Buddhism as a motivator to attack others, the way say the US uses the Christian God. Buddha wants us to invade Iraq just doesn't ring true.
Buddhism initially spread by conquest tho. Asoka, in 400 BC, had conquered large parts of India and surrounding lands before he converted to Buddhism, as did the people he ruled. He then became peaceful and a gentle ruler, and Buddhism was spread further by him sending peaceful emissaries to teach it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:24 pm
llama66 llama66: Unsound Unsound: http://stoptheriots.ca/
Ezra's petition regarding the Calgary violence. I signed it, hope a few of you do as well.
Regardless of your position on what's going on in tghe middle east I think all Canadians should be able to agree that violent protests have no place in Canada and that police abdicating their responsibilities in this matter simply cannot stand.
In the interest of fairness, if anyone has seen any alternate views of what happened in Calgary, or seen any justification for the shameful lack of police response I'd love to see a link. So far Ezra's version is the only one I've seen. Thanks, signed. Dark Day when thugs can attack Canadians without fear of repercussions. Running away due to what. Against your religion? When Muslims say the same thing, how much weight do you give it? Oh yes, the 10 Commandments, thou shall not kill are part of the Torah, the Bible and the Koran.
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:37 pm
andyt andyt: Buddhists are not proselytisers, they don't go to war to convert others. (Neither are Jews, the only sane ones in this regard of the big monotheistic 3). In Myanmar, they are reacting against refugees from another country who should be sent home. On the whole Buddhism has been the most peaceful religion. Doesn't mean individual Buddhists are incapable of violence. Look at Thailand as an example. Including monks murdering tourists because they want their stuff. Or Korean monks battling each other for control of a monastery - embarrassing. Hard tho, to use Buddhism as a motivator to attack others, the way say the US uses the Christian God. Buddha wants us to invade Iraq just doesn't ring true.
Buddhism initially spread by conquest tho. Asoka, in 400 BC, had conquered large parts of India and surrounding lands before he converted to Buddhism, as did the people he ruled. He then became peaceful and a gentle ruler, and Buddhism was spread further by him sending peaceful emissaries to teach it. And they do not commit mass murder. Right.
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:41 pm
Less so than pretty well any other group, except the Jews. (Let's not bring up Israel)>
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Posts: 10503
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:08 pm
BRAH BRAH: Signed it keep this shit out of Canada we don't need it, this is what Canada needs.
Agreed. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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Posts: 4235
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:09 pm
Israel showing signs of desperation, only for so long you keep telling lies of self defence while engaged in a massacre of civilians. Students offered grants if they tweet pro-Israeli propaganda. $1: In a campaign to improve its image abroad, the Israeli government plans to provide scholarships to hundreds of students at its seven universities in exchange for their making pro-Israel Facebook posts and tweets to foreign audiences http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 60142.htmlIsraeli propaganda war hits social media. $1: A computer lab staffed by students in an Israeli university is playing a key role in the war of information in the Gaza conflict.....According to Igal Raich, a 23-year-old IDC student who volunteers in what is called "The Advocacy Room", the project aims to counter what is perceived as a false representation of Israel in international and social media through Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.
“It is run by students who are all volunteers,” said Raich, who grew up in Canada before moving to Israel to study and also served in the Israeli military. “The school gave us a computer lab to work from and from nine in the morning until eight at night it is constantly full with student volunteers.” Which brings me to another question, is it allowed for Canadian and American citizens to go join another country's army and fight on its behalf. From the few million threads in this forum I feel its not and people have expressed that such people should be stripped of their citizenship, sent back home etc etc ? http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/22 ... rents-say/A 1000 Americans serving in the IDF http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... alone.htmlSo much for the claim of don't bring your shit to our shores, because you certainly are taking your shit to their shores.
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