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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:48 pm
<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=28273" target="_blank">GST falls to 5%, other taxes cut under new law</a> (click to view)
<strong>Category:</strong> <a href="/news/topic/1-political" target="_blank">Political</a>
<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=ridenrain" target="_blank">ridenrain</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2007-12-15 09:40:35
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:48 pm
Dropping the GST only helps the rich, while at the same time the gov't cuts spending on social programs.
The average household is not going to see a huge savings on a grocery bill with a 1% decrease.
However, the rich that buy expensive toys, cars, boats, homes will see a savings.
Once again, the poor in Canada get screwed.
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:01 pm
Anonymous Anonymous: Dropping the GST only helps the rich, while at the same time the gov't cuts spending on social programs.
The average household is not going to see a huge savings on a grocery bill with a 1% decrease.
However, the rich that buy expensive toys, cars, boats, homes will see a savings.
Once again, the poor in Canada get screwed.
The GST cut might not help the poor that much (unless they're buying a car or a house, not all poor are homeless) but other tax cuts they made will help like:
Working Income Tax Benefit, which will give low-income working Canadians a $500-per-year tax credit. The credit is $1,000 per year for low-income families.
Canadians can earn without paying income tax will rise to $9,600 in 2007 and 2008, and to $10,100 in 2009.
People with children under the age of 16 enrolled in organized sports will now be eligible for a $500 non-refundable tax credit for the 2007 tax year.
Did you even read the article?
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:07 pm
Schleihauf Schleihauf: Anonymous Anonymous: Dropping the GST only helps the rich, while at the same time the gov't cuts spending on social programs.
The average household is not going to see a huge savings on a grocery bill with a 1% decrease.
However, the rich that buy expensive toys, cars, boats, homes will see a savings.
Once again, the poor in Canada get screwed. The GST cut might not help the poor that much (unless they're buying a car or a house, not all poor are homeless) but other tax cuts they made will help like: Working Income Tax Benefit, which will give low-income working Canadians a $500-per-year tax credit. The credit is $1,000 per year for low-income families. Canadians can earn without paying income tax will rise to $9,600 in 2007 and 2008, and to $10,100 in 2009. People with children under the age of 16 enrolled in organized sports will now be eligible for a $500 non-refundable tax credit for the 2007 tax year. Did you even read the article?
Those taxes may help a little, and it will also help in getting the Conservative re-elected. (timing is everything)
However, I don't see any real massive assistance for the poor when the cost of living has trippled in many Provinces. (Alberta, BC)
As far as the working poor not being homeless. Of course not, they pay crazy amounts of rent in Alberta because there is no rent control.
However, as the article points out, it is nice to see some relief for the poor.
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Wullu
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:00 pm
Schleihauf Schleihauf: Anonymous Anonymous: Dropping the GST only helps the rich, while at the same time the gov't cuts spending on social programs.
The average household is not going to see a huge savings on a grocery bill with a 1% decrease.
However, the rich that buy expensive toys, cars, boats, homes will see a savings.
Once again, the poor in Canada get screwed. The GST cut might not help the poor that much (unless they're buying a car or a house, not all poor are homeless) but other tax cuts they made will help like: Working Income Tax Benefit, which will give low-income working Canadians a $500-per-year tax credit. The credit is $1,000 per year for low-income families. Canadians can earn without paying income tax will rise to $9,600 in 2007 and 2008, and to $10,100 in 2009. People with children under the age of 16 enrolled in organized sports will now be eligible for a $500 non-refundable tax credit for the 2007 tax year. Did you even read the article?
And risk screwing up their preconceived idea? Not a chance.
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ryan29
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:19 pm
Anonymous Anonymous: Dropping the GST only helps the rich, while at the same time the gov't cuts spending on social programs.
The average household is not going to see a huge savings on a grocery bill with a 1% decrease.
However, the rich that buy expensive toys, cars, boats, homes will see a savings.
Once again, the poor in Canada get screwed.
well everyone will save something from the gst cut , anyone buying any product at a store or mall will save money .
well on groceries there isn't much tax anyways, most true grocery items don't get charged gst anyways ( check your bill ) unless your buying junk food or somethign like that . so if your buying bread for example there isn't any gst now .
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:19 pm
Anonymous Anonymous: Dropping the GST only helps the rich, while at the same time the gov't cuts spending on social programs.
The average household is not going to see a huge savings on a grocery bill with a 1% decrease.
However, the rich that buy expensive toys, cars, boats, homes will see a savings.
Once again, the poor in Canada get screwed.
Maybe the poor need to go out and get a J O B .
As mentioned there is very little GST on "real" groceries. I guess the poor are buying potato chips and beer. ....smokes...and doughnuts. The stuff a lot of working people don't buy so they can afford cars , houses etc.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:54 pm
Taxes going down and folks still bitch.
What do you want, Free popcorn & beer?
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:56 pm
sound like a plan Ridenrain. 
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Wullu
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:37 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: Taxes going down and folks still bitch.
As Canadian as a large double/double riden.........
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:49 pm
..best I heard was how all these tax breaks would squander the huge surplus that was built up, ignoring the fact that this surplus is the proporty of Canadian voters.
Like somehow this is the governments money, not earned off the backs off of Canadian voters.
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:00 pm
we do have a debt. to pay off. how are we supposed to do that without surplus'?
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Clogeroo
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:22 pm
$1: However, I don't see any real massive assistance for the poor when the cost of living has trippled in many Provinces. (Alberta, BC)
Poverty is actually overstated in this country. Many statistics think if you do not own a television or even a computer you are considered in poverty. Also despite all new types of welfare programmes and other measures to help the poor they really have had only a minor affect on overall poverty while strong economic growth and a healthy business sector have helped push poverty far lower than any government hand outs. So if you want the government to help the poor the best way would be to reduce the government itself and allow more money for the people and businesses to invest here.
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Clogeroo
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:26 pm
$1: we do have a debt. to pay off. how are we supposed to do that without surplus'?
If you make debt repayment part of the budget then there wouldn't be a surplus. The government should cut spending and lower taxes then use whatever is left to reduce the debt.
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:04 am
Dude, thats exactly what the government has been doing for the past 15 years, yet people still bitch.
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