[fifeboy]

mtbr mtbr:

they elected Bennet

Didn't he make buggys?


I wonder if the Bennett buggy company got bailed out???

[fifeboy]

Mustang1 Mustang1:

Actually, Bennett was in charge (and it'll be interesting to see how you intepret his initial appraisall of the economic condition) during the worst parts (and he was elected only 10 months after Black Tuesday) and perhaps you'd like to explain how he did in terms of alleviating the Depression's impact?

You might want to be careful about who you chastise for alleged miscarriages of history.

I always thought it was the election of this guy



and all the subsequent dodo he caused that snapped the world out of the great depression.

[bootlegga]

Well, given that Harper had a $14 billion surpplus last year, and we'll have a $4 billion deficit (at least) next year, he's well on his way to following in Mulroney's footsteps.

I will give Harper credit though, that if we go into a recession/depression, it likely won't be his fault alone. He knows enough history and economics not to repeat the mistakes of the 1930s.

[Mustang1]

fifeboy fifeboy:

Mustang1 Mustang1:

Actually, Bennett was in charge (and it'll be interesting to see how you intepret his initial appraisall of the economic condition) during the worst parts (and he was elected only 10 months after Black Tuesday) and perhaps you'd like to explain how he did in terms of alleviating the Depression's impact?

You might want to be careful about who you chastise for alleged miscarriages of history.

I always thought it was the election of this guy



and all the subsequent dodo he caused that snapped the world out of the great depression.

Oh, he snapped the West out of the Depression and right into one of history's greatest conflicts that ultimately resulted in 60 million deaths, destroyed economies in Europe and the Cold War.

[fifeboy]

Mustang1 Mustang1:

Oh, he snapped the West out of the Depression and right into one of history's greatest conflicts that ultimately resulted in 60 million deaths, destroyed economies in Europe and the Cold War.

Good point, but the war did put an end to the depression. Anyone out of work had a job (your in the army now, not behind the plough) and any workplace that was shut down went into 24 hour production mode.

[kenmore]

"Kenmore kenmore kenmore you ignorant sl*t, we all know that liberals don't play with guns, damn they don’t even join the military because they are so afraid of them, just who would have assassinated him ?[/quote]


wackjob wackjob wackjob... who would have assassinated him? members of his own party of course..

[kenmore]

Bennett tried to combat the depression by increasing trade within the British Empire and imposing tariffs for imports from outside the Empire, promising that his measures would blast Canadian exports into world markets. His success was limited however, and his own wealth and impersonal style alienated many struggling Canadians.

When his Imperial Preference policy failed to generate the desired result, Bennett's government had no real contingency plan. The party's pro-business and pro-banking inclinations provided little relief to the millions of increasingly desperate and agitated unemployed. Despite the economic crisis, Laissez-faire persisted as the guiding economic principle of Conservative Party ideology. Government relief to the unemployed was considered a disincentive to individual initiative and was therefore only granted in the most minimal amounts and attached to work programs. An additional concern of the federal government was that large numbers of disaffected unemployed men concentrating in urban centres created a volatile situation. As an "alternative to bloodshed on the streets," the stop-gap solution for unemployment chosen by the Bennett government was to establish military-run and -styled relief camps in remote areas throughout the country, where single unemployed men toiled for twenty cents a day.[1] Any relief beyond this was left to provincial and municipal governments, many of which were either insolvent or on the brink of bankruptcy, and which railed against the inaction of other levels of government. Sound familiar? We will all be saved by the GST cut ..whoopie.. Flaherty didnt offer much today in his speech.. same old same old.. screw the little guy

[kenmore]

http://www.thestar.com/Canada/Columnist/article/519695

Maybe Harper will run off too.. but he will probably go kiss ass in Texas

[Mustang1]

fifeboy fifeboy:

Mustang1 Mustang1:

Oh, he snapped the West out of the Depression and right into one of history's greatest conflicts that ultimately resulted in 60 million deaths, destroyed economies in Europe and the Cold War.

Good point, but the war did put an end to the depression. Anyone out of work had a job (your in the army now, not behind the plough) and any workplace that was shut down went into 24 hour production mode.

True, but ask the Germans how they enjoyed their economic "miracle"

[fifeboy]

Mustang1 Mustang1:

fifeboy fifeboy:

Mustang1 Mustang1:

Oh, he snapped the West out of the Depression and right into one of history's greatest conflicts that ultimately resulted in 60 million deaths, destroyed economies in Europe and the Cold War.

Good point, but the war did put an end to the depression. Anyone out of work had a job (your in the army now, not behind the plough) and any workplace that was shut down went into 24 hour production mode.

True, but ask the Germans how they enjoyed their economic "miracle"

I have and their answers range from deep sorrow for what happened, to feeling lucky they survived to feeling that Hitler had gotten a bad rap from history. Go figure!

[Mustang1]

fifeboy fifeboy:

I have and their answers range from deep sorrow for what happened, to feeling lucky they survived to feeling that Hitler had gotten a bad rap from history. Go figure!

You've spoken to Germans that were in the Depression?!?!? Wow. And some of them claim Hitler got a "bad rap" from history? Wow. Not much "history" in that kind of view, that's for sure.

[fifeboy]

Mustang1 Mustang1:

fifeboy fifeboy:

I have and their answers range from deep sorrow for what happened, to feeling lucky they survived to feeling that Hitler had gotten a bad rap from history. Go figure!

You've spoken to Germans that were in the Depression?!?!? Wow. And some of them claim Hitler got a "bad rap" from history? Wow. Not much "history" in that kind of view, that's for sure.

Not in the depression! But a number of German immigrants ranging from military men from the war to guys who came over as teens after the war and were kids during the war. I would agree with you about the history of Hitler getting a bad rap. Only one guy in that class and he is weird in many other ways as well. I met, just last year, a young man from what was E. Germany, about 24 or so. His history is a mix up of a Nazi long past and a Soviet just gotten rid of. His whole take on Germany in the world is "we have done enough to screw up the world, lets leave it alone now.

Can we stop talking about this now, my head is going to explode if it keeps up.

[Mustang1]

fifeboy fifeboy:

Mustang1 Mustang1:

fifeboy fifeboy:

I have and their answers range from deep sorrow for what happened, to feeling lucky they survived to feeling that Hitler had gotten a bad rap from history. Go figure!

You've spoken to Germans that were in the Depression?!?!? Wow. And some of them claim Hitler got a "bad rap" from history? Wow. Not much "history" in that kind of view, that's for sure.

Not in the depression! But a number of German immigrants ranging from military men from the war to guys who came over as teens after the war and were kids during the war. I would agree with you about the history of Hitler getting a bad rap. Only one guy in that class and he is weird in many other ways as well. I met, just last year, a young man from what was E. Germany, about 24 or so. His history is a mix up of a Nazi long past and a Soviet just gotten rid of. His whole take on Germany in the world is "we have done enough to screw up the world, lets leave it alone now.

Can we stop talking about this now, my head is going to explode if it keeps up.

[Toro]

This has deteriorated into a silly thread.

The OP was about not making the mistakes of the 1930s. Bennett was wrong. Clearly, the country is going to go down a much different road than it did back then. Now, governments around the world are throwing trillions - that's $1,000,000,000,000s - at the mess.

Deficits are going to rise, and hard. People who argue this is a bad thing are idiots.

[dino_bobba_renno]

Toro Toro:

Deficits are going to rise, and hard. People who argue this is a bad thing are idiots.

Sorry you lost me there. Why isn't it a bad thing?