[dino_bobba_renno]

Curtman Curtman:

dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

So say I pay a buck in carbon taxes,

You don't pay the taxes. Pay attention.

I thought you just said I'd be getting a carbon tax rebate, if a consumer tax such as the tax proposed by Dion was imposed who would pay it then? My uncle Jack?

[Curtman]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

There are other corporations who pollute who don't require the use of natural resources.

What then?

Which ones?

[dino_bobba_renno]

Curtman Curtman:

dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

So once again, no real idea of why you support what Iggy is proposing.

I thought I was very clear about thaty, as others have been. It's the most effective form of stimulus.

And how exactly does giving people EI after working only 9 weeks as opposed to the 12 or 14 that it is now stimulate the economy? I'm in over my head here, pease help with this one.

[EyeBrock]

This is what the Dion's Liberals, a whole 7 months ago wanted.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/06/ ... ml?ref=rss

http://www.thestar.com/article/445815


Dion's carbon tax plan was a vote loser, Ignatieff says

'You've got to work with the grain of Canadians and not against them,' Liberal leader tells Albertans

http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/594543


The plan was about the consumer paying more taxes then getting 'rebates'.

Curtman, you are being less than honest and our memories stretch back at least this far.

This has been flogged to death months ago. Give us something new to debate and stop telling porky-pies.

[Curtman]

dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

And how exactly does giving people EI after working only 9 weeks as opposed to the 12 or 14 that it is now stimulate the economy? I'm in over my head here, pease help with this one.

People who have the least amount of money turn very quickly to credit with high interest rates. That's where the stimulus needs to happen.

[Curtman]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

1.We’ll cut taxes on those things we all want more of — income, investment and innovation — and we will shift those taxes on things we want less of — pollution

Oh yeah, that is a damning quote.

[EyeBrock]

Curtman Curtman:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

1.We’ll cut taxes on those things we all want more of — income, investment and innovation — and we will shift those taxes on things we want less of — pollution

Oh yeah, that is a damning quote.

Where did I write that?

[Curtman]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Where did I write that?

You couldn't be bothered, you just linked to it.

[EyeBrock]

Curtman Curtman:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Where did I write that?

You couldn't be bothered, you just linked to it.

So I didn't write it then did I?

Don't quote me saying "Eyebrock wrote" if I didn't write it. That's called lying.

[dino_bobba_renno]

Curtman Curtman:

dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

And how exactly does giving people EI after working only 9 weeks as opposed to the 12 or 14 that it is now stimulate the economy? I'm in over my head here, pease help with this one.

People who have the least amount of money turn very quickly to credit with high interest rates. That's where the stimulus needs to happen.

Why wouldn't we concentrate instead on creating jobs so that they can earn a living to pay those cards off? You see the problem with this whole "more people on EI" thing is that someone has to pay for it. Either you tax the corporations who in turn lay people off to make up for the loss in profits or we tax high income earners who are pretty much the top of the food chain, they in turn spend less which also has the same effect; less spending, less jobs. It's kind of a vicious cycle.

The money that would go to people who worked only 9 weeks would be better spent on any number of initiatives be them corprate tax cuts as favored by Conservatives or government spending on socail programs such as day care as favored by the Liberals and / or NDP. Both would create jobs, both would help enable people with maxed out credit cards to get steady pay checks. Pick your flavour, left or right, there are better ways to stimulate the economy than Iggys's proposal.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Call me silly but, shouldn't people be a little more responsible financially? Just because some dimwit chooses to live to the very extent of, or beyond their means, that should become everyone's problem? Quit confusing what you want for what you need and you'll have more money. The lack of self-responsibility and ratcheting up your credit card debt cuz you want this and that shouldn't be my problem or the government's. EI is supposed to be a safety net, not a damn entitlement just cuz you worked a few hours.

[Curtman]

dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

Why wouldn't we concentrate instead on creating jobs so that they can earn a living to pay those cards off?

That is supposed to be the point of EI. Training.

[dino_bobba_renno]

Curtman Curtman:

dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

Why wouldn't we concentrate instead on creating jobs so that they can earn a living to pay those cards off?

That is supposed to be the point of EI. Training.

And again, if you open the flood gates on EI how much money for training will there be per person, more or less?

I'm still waiting for that explanation on how a 9 week requirement for EI eligibility helps the economy or are we still on the topic of me paying off someone elses credit card debt.

[Curtman]

dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

And again, if you open the flood gates on EI how much money for training will there be per person, more or less?

Flood gates? How many more people do you figure are going to get laid off during the next year? Steve promised this wouldn't happen.

[dino_bobba_renno]

Curtman Curtman:

dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

And again, if you open the flood gates on EI how much money for training will there be per person, more or less?

Flood gates? How many more people do you figure are going to get laid off during the next year? Steve promised this wouldn't happen.

Still no explanation, big surprise there.