[BartSimpson]

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

What a different tune you chirp now.

A true capitalist, free-market libertarian shouldn't worry about personal drug use, remember, its government over-reach and its infringement on individual rights.

Just because I understand Rand Paul's esoteric argument on a civil rights law does not make me a libertarian (or a racist, for that matter). I'm okay with government so long as it is constrained.

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

People like to enhance their emotions and state of mind (coffee, alcohol, tobacco etc), just as people tend to discriminate against others.

Are you insinuating that it's government overreach to ban discrimination in private business, but not government overreach to prosecute drug users who indulge in their habits in the privacy of their own homes?

Hmmm...somebody is showing inconsistencies in their ideological thought process.

Again, I'm not a libertarian. There's a place for government and keeping order is a fundamental purpose of government. If drug users are usurping public order then they need to be dealt with and I seriously doubt that any libertarian would argue this.

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BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The USA was founded as an essentially libertarian state and the libertarians mostly want that to return. To an extent, I agree with them. I'd like to see government dial back its reach into our lives and I'd like to see property rights respected far more than they are now.

Right now, except in states where this is now explicitly forbidden, the state can use its power of eminent domain to seize your property for a scant fraction of its market value and then turn it over to a private buyer who should have simply negotiated with you in good faith to buy your property. Consequently, we have what amounts to government sanctioned theft. Libertarians oppose this.

They also oppose property taxes that essentially make you a tenant on your own land. If you fail to pay your rent to the government you get kicked off your land...just the same as what happened to the serfs in feudal Europe.

But are there social responsibilities? Yes, there are. And property owners need to have the right to do what they want on their land up to the point where it intrudes on their neighbors' right to enjoy THEIR land. I don't believe you have a right to run a junkyard without a permit or in a residential area, I also don't believe you have a right to foul the air or water so it affects your neighbors. I differ with the libertarians here who think that government should not regulate these things. I tell you, if government does not regulate these things, the people will.

Just like in Arizona - the government is not regulating immigration so Arizona is taking that into their own hands because it needs to be done. The libertarians would allow a breakdown of society in these cases and that is just wrong.

If a person is using drugs on their own land, and it's not intruding on you...

Source: current-events-f59/rand-paul-taking-heat-for-civil-rights-act-comments-t89323-45.html

You see Bart, I do read your posts...

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