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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:32 pm
 


hey, you're ruining a good fishing story with facts.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:16 pm
 


Revealed: Bart is a bot!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:25 pm
 


I'd like to say I'm shocked...


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:32 pm
 


He's not doing a very good job. 8O


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:33 pm
 


raydan raydan:
He's not doing a very good job. 8O


Yeah, I thought he was from Saltspring Island. :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:22 pm
 


New closer aerial views of wrecked reactor in Japan


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:27 pm
 


How the hell do they expect to power up the coolant pumps when they've been blown to shit?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:28 pm
 


I'd like to see it on thermal.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:35 pm
 


Scape Scape:


Is she a guy ?

(first time I see her)


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:37 pm
 


Drop water, drop water, drop water, etc, etc... for how long ?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:40 pm
 


They have to separate the fuel and put it into coolant. Damn. It would take 10 lives and is over.

I'm being rational here. But that what it is.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:23 pm
 


Proculation Proculation:
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Is she a guy ?

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Apparently not but she is a Rhodes scholar.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:49 pm
 


Scape Scape:
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Is she a guy ?

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Apparently not but she is a Rhodes scholar.



Didn't help.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:45 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
When a nuclear weapon detonates above ground (like in Hiroshima) the fissile material is near instantly dispersed into the atmosphere and in a matter of a few weeks (or days if it's the rainy season) it's safe to enter the area again for short periods.


Not quite so. When uncontrolled fission ocurrs, the matter in the material is mostly converted to energy. What's left afterward is some of the radioactive material, and some of the byproduct from the fission reaction.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
When a reactor ruptures, explodes, or etc. the fissile material can be ejected in high concentrations or it can escape in a super heated plume. Heavier particles will tend to fall in the immediate vicinity of the reactor rendering it unapproachable for perhaps millenia. Lighter particles will fall as they cool and in the case of Chernobyl they can cause near as much contamination hundreds of kilometres away as the particles about the reactor did.

So I say we nuke the Fukushima reactor site and just get it on.


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
If it were up to me? I'd let this drama play out and see what happens. But at the point this thing were to 1) threaten Tokyo or 2) no longer have any hope of being controllable I would absolutely put dispersement on the table.

Pick a day when the winds are blowing out to sea with some force - pull civilians back 100 miles, military and etc back as far, too.

Then smack it with a ground-penetrating and high efficiency 5 kiloton device.

By using a ground penetrator most of the force of the explosion could be directed up from underneath the facility blowing the fissile material up into the air and out to sea. And fallout from the bomb would also go out to sea.

Worst case scenario with this is the area is uninhabitable for 10-20 years.

Right now the potential for a big chunk of Japan being uninhabitable for the balance of this millenium is on the table.

I think my idea is actually the less radical plan.


Except your idea is based on the premise that the reactors will somehow spew radioactive material into the atmosphere during a melt down, like Chernobyl did. However, there is no graphite in these reactors, unlike Chernobyl. These cores are fissile material coated with a ceramic coating to prevent them from coming in close enough proximity to generate excessive heat.

They should only ever get hot enough to turn to liquid, and drip to the large concrete and steel floor, allowing them to cool. As they were designed to do. Then they will only be a local hazard.

Your plan spreads that hazard out over a large area, much larger than if things are just left alone to progress as they were designed.


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