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bootlegga bootlegga:

martin14 martin14:

We have already seen the car companies having to cheat in order to comply
with the crazy Commiefornia/Euro standards...

Yeah, because of that scandal, these engines will get examined to the umpteenth degree to ensure they are all Mazda says they are.

I'm hoping Mazda got it right, but after the VW scandal, I'm highly skeptical of all car makers 'innovations'.

You're right Mazda will face the microscope.

[herbie]

They will. but they're Japanese. They learn from other's mistakes!
Took them about 4 seconds to kick Land Rover out of Africa & Australia and set Detroit into panic mode in less than a decade.

Likely it'll be a niche thing like all those new Japanese cars using Atkinson cycle engines. Mazda is one.

[bootlegga]

herbie herbie:

Seems most people already are skeptical of anything new.
Seems 95% are too fucking scared to press that "cruise control" button that's been around for decades.

I use cruise control religiously - haven't gotten a speeding ticket in more than a decade!

[bootlegga]

herbie herbie:

Well I grew up in Burnaby with a Dad in the refinery. I'm not totally opposed to Trans Mtn either. I just don't like zero refineries jobs all export concept, and I cede the right to oppose more tanker traffic to the people who live there.
I fought Gateway across my rivers and rec areas, would've been really pissed if they jammed their decisions in my backyard.
Nor do I think that Eastern Canada being deprived of western Canada's gas an oil is anything other than stupid and short sighted.
But I'm damn tired of the dissing of any concept of environmentalism by the same crowd who bleated "jobs OR the environment" since 1970.
If I still lived in the Lower Mainland I'd already have a Chevy Bolt for my 2nd car. Got it - SECOND CAR? Go on GasBuddy and listen to the anti-green crowd bleat about electrics, hybrids, even ethanol in their gas. They're so stunned they 100% think a Chevy Volt stops dead on the road after 40 miles. That you can ONLY make ethanol out of corn, and electricity MUST be produced from coal. And act like they're all to butt poor to own a second vehicle because gas is taxed so much at 27c a gallon.
Just like I was pissed off at my young employees who thought I made them wash out their pop cans and bottles and put them in the bin cuz I wanted the damn nickel. Or the daughter that tries to tell me paper bags take thousands of years to rot.

Site C is nearby and I'm not opposed but not convinced for the need. I'd back it if they said it was to charge roads & vehicles in BC and maybe bring back the electric trains they abandoned there. Not for cheap hydro so Malaysians can export OUR LNG.

There is a refinery in Burnaby that already refines Alberta oil, but it is too small to meet all of the Lower Mainland's needs. Given that oil is a sunset product, there is little incentive to expand it, especially given Vancouver's green leanings - as soon as possible, there will be more electric cars there than ICE cars.

And while Site C may not be needed today, it will be certainly be needed in the not so near future, more so if electric cars are as close to taking over as Bloomberg thinks they are.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-ev-oil-crisis/

[herbie]

Yeah, I even worked at that one for a summer. Now makes mainly jet fuel.
Lower Mainland/Victoria should be the premier spot in Canada for electrics. Good climate, short distances, perfect.
The Bolt has 380km range on one charge, way more than enough for anyone down there. And like I keep saying - it's your second car, not the one you drive the whole family across the country in to visit Wally World. You could own a Prince George Cadillac for your other vehicle and save money on gas over the course of a year.

Oh - that's a loaded F350 4x4 crew with dualies....