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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:59 pm
<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=19479" target="_blank">NATO should talk to Taliban because military victory impossible: report</a> (click to view)
<strong>Category:</strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=News_Links&file=category&catid=16" target="_blank">Misc World</a>
<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=Hyack" target="_blank">Hyack</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2007-03-01 09:48:04
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:59 pm
Talk to Taliban  ....
Unless the Taliban gets its weapons from the CIA... then they will eventually get ammo issues.
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kal
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:01 pm
Yea, I'm sure talking to psychopathic fanatics is going to be more effective than shooting them  The people that make these reports should go spend a few months in Afghanistan, then we'll see what their opinions are.
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Scrappy
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:07 pm
I agree Kal, these reporters and writers are such "No it alls". What should we discuss with the Taliban how to beat women, how to oppress and abuse woman and children. The exceptable method of hanging or stoning? Pedophilia and beastiality? Oh let us not forget Bomb making and bomb strapping 101 how to ergo "Use your children" as weapons. Have some people no shame or decency, these men are vile evil radical PIGS??????????????
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Clogeroo
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:12 pm
$1: Unless the Taliban gets its weapons from the CIA... then they will eventually get ammo issues.
I doubt it as long as Afghans keep selling them opium and the taliban make profits off it by selling it to the west. Many armies have come and gone through Afghanistan and one thing is for certain it will take more than just force to make the region more stable.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:33 pm
"Diplomatic negotiations with the Taliban" That is the most arrogant statement since Jack proposed it!
NATO should talk to the Taliban? Who does he think we are, the legal government of Afghanistan? We are in no position to discuss diplomatic treaties with them! The rules are simple - put down the guns, and no one gets shot!
And for the record, the Government of Afghanistan has these talks with more moderate members of the Taliban all the time!
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ridenrain
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:34 pm
Centre for Global Studies. Never heard of them.
It must piss them right off that coalition forces now control much of the country and the taliban are no longer an effective or active military force.
Classic CBC. Find professor wimp-alot and pretend like he has credability.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:39 pm
Don't some of the Taliban want peace talks because they losing bad?
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toothpick
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:45 pm
I remember reading a story from a Russian translator. He was part of the Soviet force occupying Afghanistan and amongst other things he was in charge of telling all the tribal leaders that they had to send thier daughters to school.
One day he got in a particulary heated argument which ended with his commander telling him to tell the tribal leader "send her or else".
The next day the tribal leader arrived with his daughter...'s head in a bag. He said "now she can be in school as long as you want."
Those are the people we're fighting, and we're supposed to talk to them?
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ridenrain
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:57 pm
$1: Parents Take Up Arms Against the Taliban February 13, 2007: Terrorists have to be careful that they don't do something that will enrage, rather than terrify. A recent example of this can be found in Afghanistan, where the Taliban attempt, to terrorize Afghans into shutting down secular schools, backfired. Last year in southern Afghanistan, the Taliban burned down 200 schools, and terrorized parents into shutting down another 400. Those 600 schools meant 130,000 students were no longer able to attend classes. Several million parents in the region demanded that the government do something. Officials pointed out that the government, and foreign aid agencies, were able to build thousands of schools, but did not have the manpower to guard them. In response, last Fall, parents pressured their village and tribal leaders into organizing a guard force for the schools. This was a risky business. Most villages have fewer weapons (often mainly bolt action rifles, pistols and shotguns), to use against up to a hundred heavily armed (with AK-47s and RPGs) Taliban. But this action across the region was sending a message to the Taliban; attack our schools and you'll have to fight the parents. While many of the tribes in the region contain many pro-Taliban members, the majority of the people wanted to protect their schools. The Taliban responded in two ways. First, they said they would spend several million dollars to build dozens of new, Taliban approved (mainly religious subjects) schools, most of them in villages where schools had been burned down. Second, the Taliban campaign against the schools withered. The number of schools attacked each month declined by 90 percent. But the after effects of this remain to be seen. For the moment, the Taliban are much less tolerated in many parts of southern Afghanistan. But the fathers of children are not happy about spending several nights a month taking their turn guarding an empty, and usually unheated, school house. However, the police are being promised more cooperation (that is, information about any Taliban activity in the neighborhood), when Spring, and Taliban gunmen, begin roaming the hills again.
That's not the signs of a mighty peoples uprising for the Taliban.
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neopundit
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:04 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: $1: Parents Take Up Arms Against the Taliban February 13, 2007: Terrorists have to be careful that they don't do something that will enrage, rather than terrify. A recent example of this can be found in Afghanistan, where the Taliban attempt, to terrorize Afghans into shutting down secular schools, backfired. Last year in southern Afghanistan, the Taliban burned down 200 schools, and terrorized parents [/snip] That's not the signs of a mighty peoples uprising for the Taliban.
Can I have the link to this article, please?
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neopundit
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:10 pm
Scrappy Scrappy: I agree Kal, these reporters and writers are such "No it alls". What should we discuss with the Taliban how to beat women, how to oppress and abuse woman and children. The exceptable method of hanging or stoning? Pedophilia and beastiality? Oh let us not forget Bomb making and bomb strapping 101 how to ergo "Use your children" as weapons. Have some people no shame or decency, these men are vile evil radical PIGS??????????????
No it alls? Exceptable? How on earth is anyone supposed to take you seriously?
And if these people are so repulsive to you, why do you support our troops in dying for them?
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kal
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:12 pm
Schleihauf Schleihauf: Don't some of the Taliban want peace talks because they losing bad?
Sure.... and as soon as they gain the upper hand again they'll stab you in the back. These people can't be reasoned with. If they're losing... good, then we can take enough of a break to reload our guns before we continue shooting.
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neopundit
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:12 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: Centre for Global Studies. Never heard of them. Ridenrain. Never heard of him. See what I did there? ridenrain ridenrain: It must piss them right off that coalition forces now control much of the country and the taliban are no longer an effective or active military force.
Yep, we're minutes away from victory, whatever that is.
Actually, please enlighten me as to what will constitute a military victory in Afghanistan.
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kal
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:13 pm
neopundit neopundit: why do you support our troops in dying for them?
Care to form that into a coherant sentence?
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