[EyeBrock]

Brenda Brenda:

The GOVERNMENT doesn't accept the foreign education. You ALWAYS have to obtain Canadian credentials. Even when the foreign ones are more (oh, shit how to say that..) educated (?).

For example... To obtain a Red Seal endorsement as Autotechnician, or Welder, you have to take your exam again. No matter if what you have is better than the RS... Then you just have an easy exam

We also have to take our driverslicence tests all over again, no matter if you drove for 18 years, never been involved in an accident. Only a couple of countries (Like HongKong) can exchange their licenses.

So, what immigrants should do, is suck it up, and take their exams if they are so convinced they have a better education. What is the point of NOT taking it then anyway?

And, most Canadian levels of education are not accepted in a foreign country either.

So suck it up, stop whining, and do what you have to do.
Cab drivers who are really doctors in Pakistan should get their asses to the ITA, their credentials checked, order books, and take their exams. Then they are at par with Canadian education. But they don't. Who's fault is that?

Totally agree Brenda. I went through a lot of hassle when I first got here in those heady days of Bob Rae's NDP govt in Ontario. I was the worst kind of immigrant at that time, English speaking (kind of...), male and white. It took me 14 months to get my UK qualifications accepted and then I had to do a couple of courses to upgrade my skills to the Canadian requirements.

As you said, any immigrant worth their salt realises that to get on in a new country you have to play by the new countries rules.
Did I like doing menial jobs for 14 months? Absolutely not.
Was the hassle worth it? Oh yea! Living the dream right now! I'm so much better off than I was in the UK and my career is going great guns.

This is a great country and I don't regret one minute of my time here. Those who whine need to get off their arses and do it the Canadian way or carry on driving cabs.

[dog77_1999]

Of course immigrants are gonna have a lower employment rate. Their degrees are not usually held at the same standards as Canadian institutions and their language skills at usually lower. Communication is key, and I think that is the dividing line here.

[kenmore]

I will quote only part of C.M Burns comments: "the same problem does not exist for nurses because the government and the CMA wants nurses wages low."
The Nurses in Canada are regulated by their own professional college in each province.. In Ontario it is the College of Nurses of Ontario and is a self regulating professional body.. Nurses who come from other countries must meet the standards of practice and qualify for registration other wise no job.. Nurses cannot come here and work without writing exams... You had to write exams in each province that you wanted to work in and that was the case even if you wanted to go say from Ontario to BC.. this issue was the topic of the recent premiers conference that they plan to put an end to the provincial barriers.. but this will not change things for foreign nurses.. I have a friend from Britain who came here and she cannot work as an RN until she writes the Canadian exams.. also the wages for nurses are according to collective agreements reached with each provinces government.. The CMA has nothing to do with either the wages or the requirements for licensing nurses..

[kenmore]

I might add here that in Canada the title nurse can only be used by Registered Nurses or Registered Practical Nurses and Registered Psychiatric Nurses... use of the title nurse by those who are not regulated by a professional body is an offense in Canada

[Bruce_the_vii]

There's an immigrant condrum. If you import working class people they don't pay much in taxes so are not a big benefit to the country. So the government has streamlined immigration to people with degrees and multiple degrees. Some 45% of recent adult immigrants have degrees. The government never thought that we have enough people with university degrees already, that these foreign people are B string players and get out competed by the indeginous who have better job experience and that the idea that Canadians should do the working class jobs is wholey politically backward. That's Ottawa for you, it's one awful amateur show.

[CommanderSock]

$1:

There's an immigrant condrum. If you import working class people they don't pay much in taxes so are not a big benefit to the country. So the government has streamlined immigration to people with degrees and multiple degrees. Some 45% of recent adult immigrants have degrees. The government never thought that we have enough people with university degrees already, that these foreign people are B string players and get out competed by the indeginous who have better job experience and that the idea that Canadians should do the working class jobs is wholey politically backward. That's Ottawa for you, it's one awful amateur show.

This is better. Educated immigrants push their kids to be educated too. Better for the future of Canada in the long term.

Working class immigrants do "1" job, and when that job is outsourced or becomes obsolete, they bitch about injustices. The educated know better than that.

[Vanina]

Educated immigrants also do their research before coming to Canada. They are quite aware in that case that however qualified they maybe they have to start all over again in this new country in the job market.
I had to "Canadianise" my resume and for sometime worked in my field for a lower pay. Eventually I made it. It took me approximately three years.
An educated immigrant generally should know that Canada does not recognise foreign degrees. If he/she has done his/her research well.
There are websites like these http://workingincanada.gc.ca/welcome.do?lang=en which are of great help. And the job clubs too give you a realistic picture of the employment market.

[Scape]

C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:

koizumi koizumi:

How shameful! Our country's employers and citizens continue to step on the immigrants because they know that immigrants offer better skills than what the citizens could offer, so to keep the immigrants to a week influence, they don't hire any foreign migrant workers!

How unfortunate our poor excuse for a Prime Minister (Harper) does nothing to make companies hire more immigrants.

100% wrong.
Immigrants are brought into Canada because
1) Capitalism requires constant growth.
2) Increasing the supply of labour drives down the price of labour for all.

Example. There are thousands of physicians all over the world who would love to come and work in Canada and could do so with little re-training. The CMA makes it so difficult for them to become physicians so that they can keep their wages high.

The same problem does not exist for nurses because the government and the CMA wants nurses wages low.

Exactly.