[raydan]

rickc rickc:

A bunch of us at work were talking about trans people just a few weeks ago. The question was asked: who knows any trans people? No one at the table currently knew any trans people, nor have they ever known one. We started asking people at other tables. Not one person currently knows any, nor have they ever known one. Thats the reality of the trans world. I know people that have been struck by lightning, but no trans. We have over 5000 employees where I work. Not one of them is trans. We have gay people, but no trans. Not one in 5000. We have everyone from 16 year olds all the way up to people in their 70's working there. Every race, creed, and color, but no trans. So lets stop with the bullshit statistics that drastically over inflate the trans population. Gays used to claim that they were 1 in 10. That was bullshit then, the trans numbers are bullshit now.

Do you think that trans people go around with a sign around their neck? About .33% of people are trans so you should have about 16 of them in your workplace. I'll let you do the math for Las Vegas. Just remember that since it's Las Vegas, the percentage is probably a lot higher.

[Strutz]

Well, this thread has taken an interesting turn...

Just to clarify my original post, I don't care that the teacher is transgender. The choice to wear "falsies" goes beyond transgender people because there are women that have had mastectomies and women who are self-conscious about not being well endowed who opt to wear them.

But those ones are ridiculously big for not being natural. It's almost mocking to those women who are naturally very large who often have to deal with problems associated with it. Added to the fact that they are teaching shop and they must, to a certain extent, get in the way.


I haven't personally known anyone trans. I have a friend whose ex had a coworker many years back that transitioned from man to woman and she knew them socially. Apparently she became a much happier person after and was supported by the workplace throughout the process and surgeries.

[Thanos]

Only 0.33%? You'd think it had to be closer to 90% given how thoroughly this agenda has been portrayed by its leaders & supporters as literally the "most important" civil rights issue of our time. And by how it's seemingly taken over basically every one of our social, media, educational, legal, and political institutions in a lightning-short period of time. Talk about the most successful blitzkrieg of all time, perpetrated on an oblivious & hapless defender that truly didn't know what the hell was happening around it. I could post a bunch of articles showing the real numbers. Not much point in that though, given how completely that sort of information was completely ignored the last time we went around with this circle-jerk of an issue. All I offer now is that the side with its "be nice and don't hurt any feelings, even if you are 100% factually correct, and you have to give up your entire belief system while you're at it" tactics seems to have scored an absolutely overwhelming victory.

[DrCaleb]

rickc rickc:

A bunch of us at work were talking about trans people just a few weeks ago. The question was asked: who knows any trans people? No one at the table currently knew any trans people, nor have they ever known one. We started asking people at other tables. Not one person currently knows any, nor have they ever known one. Thats the reality of the trans world. I know people that have been struck by lightning, but no trans. We have over 5000 employees where I work. Not one of them is trans. We have gay people, but no trans. Not one in 5000. We have everyone from 16 year olds all the way up to people in their 70's working there. Every race, creed, and color, but no trans. So lets stop with the bullshit statistics that drastically over inflate the trans population. Gays used to claim that they were 1 in 10. That was bullshit then, the trans numbers are bullshit now.

Not sure what your point is here. Because you don't know any trans people, something something? I believe the only statistics we've been discussing are yours where "99.999% of the world calls bullshit." I don't think you know or have spoken to 99.9999% of the world.

rickc rickc:

Gender expression is one thing, the rules about common decency and societal norms still apply. You do not get to toss out the rule book that everyone has had to follow for generations just because someone claims they are trans. Cisgender women do not get to wear enormous fake tits to their job in most cases. Cisgender men do not get to wear a gigantic fake dick that hangs down to their ankle to their job in most cases. Hell you can't even have visible tattoos where I work. I am sick and tired of people thinking that they can toss out the rulebook that we have all played by for countless generations just because some freak claims that they are trans. The rules apply to them too.

You say this, but do you have anything to back it up? Is there anything in the Ontario Teachers code of conduct that says SHE can't wear fake breasts? What about cancer patients, would they be able to? (other than the obvious safety issue in a shop class) The rest is what we call 'red herrings'.

rickc rickc:

You want to talk about personal rights? You had no problem with teachers losing their job for refusing to take the jab. You did not give a fuck about their "personal rights". You said that it was their "choice" to take the jab or lose their job. I would give the freakshow here the same "choice". Lose the obnoxious tits, or lose the job. His choice.

And you keep forgetting that your rights end where they interfere with the rights of someone else. Wearing fake tits affects no ones rights. Not getting a vaccination for a highly contagious and currently circulating in the population does affect the rights of others. No one was forced to get a vaccine, but then again they can find an occupation that doesn't require standing in a room with children who are vulnerable and can't be vaccinated for that disease.

And there are a lot of dress codes that possibly run contrary to people's right to self expression. People just tolerate them, because they have always been tolerated.

[DrCaleb]

Strutz Strutz:

Well, this thread has taken an interesting turn...

Just to clarify my original post, I don't care that the teacher is transgender. The choice to wear "falsies" goes beyond transgender people because there are women that have had mastectomies and women who are self-conscious about not being well endowed who opt to wear them.

Strutz Strutz:

But those ones are ridiculously big for not being natural. It's almost mocking to those women who are naturally very large who often have to deal with problems associated with it. Added to the fact that they are teaching shop and they must, to a certain extent, get in the way.

I'm pretty sure that was the point. Not to mock other women, but to get people to take notice, and a certain percentage of the population to fly off into an unexplainable rage. Which appears to have worked.

Strutz Strutz:

I haven't personally known anyone trans. I have a friend whose ex had a coworker many years back that transitioned from man to woman and she knew them socially. Apparently she became a much happier person after and was supported by the workplace throughout the process and surgeries.

The way I have seen it described is like this: When you look in a mirror, do you see the person you believe you are? For most people, the answer is yes. But what if that person isn't the person you feel you are? What if putting on womens' makeup changes that view to what you feel like you should be? What if putting on the clothes of the opposite sex makes you feel more 'you'? And what if it means you have the wrong genitals?

Our outward expectations do not always match our inward ones. This is a gross simplification, but it may give people an idea into what other people experience. And like always, it costs you nothing to let other people be happy.

[raydan]

You don't need to know they are trans to see and meet trans people. I'd be surprised if the first thing they tell you is that they are trans and that most of them would like to keep that little secret.

[DrCaleb]

And perhaps they are right to keep that a secret, given the obvious bigotry we see towards them currently in society.

[Scape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH4hy5H ... WL&index=7

[Thanos]

All of us had teachers who were terrible, and outright shouldn't have been in the job to begin with. We all have horror stories of the really bad ones and the damage they caused to students through incompetence, indifference, or blatant cruelty. But what the current generation of kids has to deal with thanks to a genuine fucking freakshow that's erupted in public schooling thanks to queer/trans ideology? This is unprecedented in its destructiveness. Think COVID absences and school shutdowns damaged the kids beyond repair? Well, that's going to be a bare fraction of how badly the kids are being hurt by the imposition of the "it's all about ME" agenda that is being shoved down their throats by this new wave of teachers.

The following can't happen in Canada simply because of the way the system is structured. But it might be able to happen in the US. When President Ron DeSantis, who is probably going to get elected in '24 thanks solely to the disgusted recoil so many Americans have towards the forced trans ideology being imposed on their children, figures out a way to fire every teacher in the country who's behaving this way then his approval rating will shoot up above 75%. Reagan's most popular act was firing the air traffic controllers on strike who refused to go to work despite being ordered to by the government. And that act remains incredibly popular among a majority of Americans today. DeSantis doing something like that to renegade teachers, school boards, and universities that are churning these obvious lunatics out of the education faculties like some sort of demented assembly line? Christ, he could probably win about a dozen presidential elections in a row after dropping the hammer down like that.

Don't go after people's kids. They were warned more times than can be counted and has been ignored by the "progressive" forces each and every time they were told to back the fuck off. Well, you fucked around and you're going to find out what happens pretty goddamn soon.