[raydan]

Maybe they could use the new tax money to subsidize all those rag Rightie media sites Fiddle likes to read.


Just kidding Fid...

[N_Fiddledog]

Fat people didn't disappear from Philadelphia because they taxed Pepsi-cola.

[N_Fiddledog]

raydan raydan:

Maybe they could use the new tax money to subsidize all those rag Rightie media sites Fiddle likes to read.


Just kidding Fid...

Yeah, but you're kind of the rich fat kid throwing muck at the skinny, dirty-faced kids below and calling it a joke. It's like 'why aren't you laughing, hungry kid?"

Because it's your leftie, fake news sites (and I'll stop saying "your" when you stop being exclusively on one side) that are subsidized.

Get back to me when Rebel gets some Trudeau cash, fat kid. Just kidding, of course.

[raydan]

Don't read the news anymore, any news, unless it's posted here...

...except the local paper, but I don't even look at the political stuff unless it's local.

Just curious, anybody here except maybe Beaver that post stories from what you call "leftie, fake news sites"?

AND, I'm the skinny, dirty-faced kid throwing muck at the rich fat kid saying, "why are you fat, too much junk and fast food?".

[Freakinoldguy]

When you think about it the left should be up in arms when cities impose this tax because, it could be considered a tax on the poor, the elderly and the infirmed. They're the demographic who can't travel outside the fallout zone to purchase these sugar sweetened beverages and therefore are the ones who end up paying more for what the more affluent aren't.

$1:

Anna Tuchman, at Northwestern University, is part of a group studying Philadelphia's soda tax. Philadelphia's tax is different from the one in Berkeley. It's bigger, and it also covers both beverages sweetened by sugar and drinks containing low-calorie sweeteners. This is partly because the goal of the tax is largely to raise more money for schools and playgrounds.

Tuchman says that sales of those drinks in Philadelphia have dropped sharply, by 46 percent, since the tax went into effect.

But there's a catch. "We find a very large increase in sales of soda and other taxed products at stores that are located zero to four miles outside the city," she says.

Basically, it seems that a lot of people in Philadelphia are driving to stores right outside the city to buy their beverages. This is especially true in the case of sugar-sweetened drinks (and less so of artificially sweetened drinks). When you take that into account, sales in and around the city dropped about 20 percent, not 46 percent. And sales of sugar-sweetened drinks fell even less.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/20 ... l-as-hoped

So, unless the these self serving moralists can get the entire city, regional district, municipality, state and country to buy into this exercise on forced responsibility the only people suffering will be the aforementioned ones and the small businesses that rely on that income for survivability.

Oh and I almost forgot, this tax might just be racist.

$1:

What we need is a body-culture revolution in black America. Why? Because too many experts who are involved in the discussion of obesity don’t understand something crucial about black women and fat: many black women are fat because we want to be.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/06/opin ... e-fat.html

[raydan]

Just curious, would someone actually pay taxes on gas just so they can drive outside the fallout zone to save taxes on soda?


I'm seeing a black market for the other kind of coke, the sugary kind...
...the pimple faced kid comes up and asks, "want some coke, it's cold?".

[N_Fiddledog]

raydan raydan:

Just curious, anybody here except maybe Beaver that post stories from what you call "leftie, fake news sites"?

Well Beave's more far, alt-left attack media. 'Right wing watch' and such.

Somebody's been posting stuff like Slate, Media Matters, Huffington Post, Talking Points Memo and the like. I'm not one to point fingers though.

The 'Mother Jones' crowd seems to be gone.

But I would be calling CBC, The Toronto 'Red' Star, Global and such, "leftie, fake news," so you don't want to ask me.

[Thanos]

raydan raydan:

Just curious, would someone actually pay taxes on gas just so they can drive outside the fallout zone to save taxes on soda?

A short drive outside the city limits won't even put a tiny dent in the fuel economy of a current vehicle, not even a SUV or big truck. I'd do it just to shaft a city that imposed that kind of tax. I hate the local SJWs on our city council so much right now for their non-stop interference in people's lives and the way they waste tax money on their idiotic social engineering scams that I go out of my way now to do anything I can to buck what they want me to do.

They've all gone too far and everybody knows it. There is literally no end to the ways that they'll keep trying to deliberately harm the average person economically thru excessive taxation. It's only because at least half the electorate is too stupid/lazy/disinterested to bother to go to vote in civic elections that these smiley-faced Big Sister leftist morons get elected at all in the vast majority of our cities.

[raydan]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

raydan raydan:

Just curious, anybody here except maybe Beaver that post stories from what you call "leftie, fake news sites"?

Well Beave's more far, alt-left attack media. 'Right wing watch' and such.

Somebody's been posting stuff like Slate, Media Matters, Huffington Post, Talking Points Memo and the like. I'm not one to point fingers though.

The 'Mother Jones' crowd seems to be gone.

But I would be calling CBC, The Toronto 'Red' Star, Global and such, "leftie, fake news," so you don't want to ask me.

I'd say that there are as many on both sides, left or right. Like pretty much all things, it follows a bell curve. If you also follow that curve, there's as much false news on both sides.

For me, the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle. Don't believe it if it's too far right, don't believe it if it's too far left... take an average.

[Saskanna]

What about beer?

[raydan]

Saskanna Saskanna:

What about beer?

Are you buying?

[BeaverFever]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Wow, the Liberals really want to lose the next election...taxes are about as popular as cancer for most people. I don't like taxes, but I do like being able to go to the hospital, having good schools for my kids, and nice roads to drive on, so it's a trade off.

Under this proposed tax, it's okay if I stuff my face with two Big Macs and fries and wash them down with Diet Coke, but not if I choose to drink root beer? That's fucked up if you ask me.

That's like saying, we're going to tax beer because drinking and driving is a problem, but not tax wine, whiskey or vodka. Seriously?!?

Either tax all fast food, junk food, pop, and chocolate, etc. or don't waste everyone's time.

Given the costs to society for overweight people's health issues (of which I am one), I don't have a problem with this, but don't half-ass it or pick and choose what is or isn't taxed.

I wouldn’t oppose a general junk food tax but there are specific issues related to pop in particular ....BTW in your example the Diet Coke would still be taxed, it’s still pop. I imagine all those ice-t and fruit-flavoured sugar drinks would be too.

People don’t eat 2 or 3 Big Macs a day but people really over-consume pop. It’s everyone’s go-to beverage and I know multiple people who drink more than 1 per day. Personally I’ve probably had at least one regular can per day for most of the past 20 years. My wife is an elementary teacher and she has kids who are sent to school with half-litre bottles of coke every day in their lunch.

Plus, the price is really distorted and artificially low thanks to special interests. How is it a bottle of plain water costs more than a bottle of water that’s had a bunch of ingredients added and then has to undergo a carbonation process?

You’re right though that these days, North Americans are uniquely resistant to any comcept of taxes and so there will be howling at the moon for sure.

[Thanos]

This is really just the busybody left showing that they're the exact same sort of anti-liberty ninnies as the cretins on the right that freak out about abortion or marijuana. It's none of their damn business who consumes what for drinks and trying to tax it out of existence is just gutless. If they had any courage on the issue they'd just ban soft drinks outright instead of skirting around the edges of the "morality" they're trying to impose on others. And this is nothing like smoking either, which has toxic harmful effects on others in the immediate vicinity of a smoker. Soft drinks don't, so it's not even comparable.

[martin14]

xerxes xerxes:

Soda taxes work.

https://www.google.ca/amp/time.com/5588227/soda-tax-philadelphia/%3famp=true

No, they don't.
Oh wait, you mean more money for government, more control over people,
and more carbon emissions from people having to drive out of state to buy Coke.

Yeah, then it works just fine.

$1:

“In our data, we actually don’t see people switching and buying other kinds of non-taxed drinks,” Roberto explains. “What that means is that money goes into their pockets or they’re able to spend it on other things.”

It was nation wide headlines that people in Philly were driving to go
buy pop out of state.


These researchers think people just stop buying Coke and stuff,
and I don't know start drinking water ?
This just shows how stupid they really are. No clue at all.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

martin14 martin14:

xerxes xerxes:

Soda taxes work.

https://www.google.ca/amp/time.com/5588227/soda-tax-philadelphia/%3famp=true

No, they don't.
Oh wait, you mean more money for government, more control over people,
and more carbon emissions from people having to drive out of state to buy Coke.

Yeah, then it works just fine.

$1:

“In our data, we actually don’t see people switching and buying other kinds of non-taxed drinks,” Roberto explains. “What that means is that money goes into their pockets or they’re able to spend it on other things.”

It was nation wide headlines that people in Philly were driving to go
buy pop out of state.


These researchers think people just stop buying Coke and stuff,
and I don't know start drinking water ?
This just shows how stupid they really are. No clue at all.

Kind'a like Chicago laughingly calling itself a "gun-free" city. Like nobody can drive to the nearest town and purchase a firearm.