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poquas
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Posts: 2245
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:28 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1: All voters judge a leader, reputation and all. And for the platform, why give the other parties any talking points BEFORE an election? Especially when you can be guaranteed that ANY point will be turned into a personal attack ad.
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Posts: 23565
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:16 pm
Thanos Thanos: Good point. I think that Ghaw'ron became Chancellor of the Klingon Empire precisely because no one knew anything about him and too much about the other candidates. Note to politicians: don't reveal yourself until Ground Hog Day and no one'll get too pissed off at ya.  
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:26 pm
Better Canadians vote for a color or brand than ideas or policy. After all, it was hammered into us that Canadians vote for MPs and not Prime Ministers. 
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Lemmy
CKA Uber
Posts: 12349
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:32 pm
OF COURSE Iggy's arrogant. Other arrogant leaders: Winston Churchill, Abraham Lincoln, Pierre Trudeau, John A. Macdonald, John F. Kennedy, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Those guys seemed to do a pretty good job. I want an arrogant leader. Someone with some balls to make reforms and stand behind them.
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:38 pm
Dion was arogant too. It would still be a good thing to tell people what you believe in rather than making them guess.
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Akhenaten
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Posts: 1734
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:38 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: OF COURSE Iggy's arrogant. Other arrogant leaders: Winston Churchill, Abraham Lincoln, Pierre Trudeau, John A. Macdonald, John F. Kennedy, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Those guys seemed to do a pretty good job. I want an arrogant leader. Someone with some balls to make reforms and stand behind them. How come everyone in your list is a 'good' leader (for sake of argument)? Is that list the sum total of arrogant leaders? Why not include Mussolini? Napoleon? It's not as solid a point when your list of "arrogant leaders" is more complete.
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Posts: 14139
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:38 pm
Yeah but there are different kinds of arrogance. Iggy is intellectually arrogant. But that doens't mean he'd have the cajones to actually make GOOD FOR CANADA reforms and stand behind them. I could be totally misreading him but I'm thinking he's only got one goal, and that goal ONLY includes his own self-interest. Just like any other candidate, sucking in the rarefied air at the top.
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Lemmy
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Posts: 12349
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:54 pm
Akhenaten Akhenaten: Lemmy Lemmy: OF COURSE Iggy's arrogant. Other arrogant leaders: Winston Churchill, Abraham Lincoln, Pierre Trudeau, John A. Macdonald, John F. Kennedy, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Those guys seemed to do a pretty good job. I want an arrogant leader. Someone with some balls to make reforms and stand behind them. How come everyone in your list is a 'good' leader (for sake of argument)? Is that list the sum total of arrogant leaders? Why not include Mussolini? Napoleon? It's not as solid a point when your list of "arrogant leaders" is more complete. Maybe so. I don't care if we have an arrogant leader, so long as he's competent. I'll take arrogant and able over humble and horrible.
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ridenrain
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Posts: 22594
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:07 pm
.. and the trains ran on time! As usual, we desperately need some charismatic leader to warp all our laws to create paradise on earth.
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Lemmy
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Posts: 12349
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:18 pm
"Arrogant and Able"...that's the tag-line that'll win the next election. Whichever party adopts that phrase will CAKE-WALK to a majority.
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:21 pm
Try the Bloc. They seem to have that line sewn up.
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Posts: 619
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:21 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: Akhenaten Akhenaten: Lemmy Lemmy: OF COURSE Iggy's arrogant. Other arrogant leaders: Winston Churchill, Abraham Lincoln, Pierre Trudeau, John A. Macdonald, John F. Kennedy, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Those guys seemed to do a pretty good job. I want an arrogant leader. Someone with some balls to make reforms and stand behind them. How come everyone in your list is a 'good' leader (for sake of argument)? Is that list the sum total of arrogant leaders? Why not include Mussolini? Napoleon? It's not as solid a point when your list of "arrogant leaders" is more complete. Maybe so. I don't care if we have an arrogant leader, so long as he's competent. I'll take arrogant and able over humble and horrible. Well if you have to take the good with the bad: Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Saddam Hussein, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, do you want me to list more?
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:47 pm
You missed Harper and Mulroney.
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Posts: 14139
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:50 pm
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Posts: 619
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:53 pm
DerbyX DerbyX: You missed Harper and Mulroney. Sorry I also forgot: Jean Chrétien, Jack Layton, Gilles Duceppe
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