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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:58 am
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

I'm sorry Coach. It sounds like you're telling me I need to bow to your superior expertise.

Very well...what are your credentials? Are they superior to this pediatrician's who's advising it's wise for parents to watch out for possibly dangerous memes embedded into places children can access like what's up apps on phones and kid vids on the internet.

https://fox59.com/2019/02/25/mom-finds- ... tube-kids/


A pediatrician is an now an expert on cyber security and YouTube content? :lol: You're so gullible. Put a professional man on Fox news and suddenly he's the expert on everything.

So now you're moving away from the MOMO thing and only an isolated incident of someone placing a clip within a video about suicide?

Yes, it happens. Has been going on via YouTube for almost a year now. There will always be sick fucks in this world that do stupid stuff like this.

What we don't need is geriatrics telling us how to parent as if they're some expert on internet security because they watched a clip on Fox News


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:15 pm
 


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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

I'm sorry Coach. It sounds like you're telling me I need to bow to your superior expertise.

Very well...what are your credentials? Are they superior to this pediatrician's who's advising it's wise for parents to watch out for possibly dangerous memes embedded into places children can access like what's up apps on phones and kid vids on the internet.

https://fox59.com/2019/02/25/mom-finds- ... tube-kids/


A pediatrician is an now an expert on cyber security and YouTube content?


My suggestion is a pediatrician with personal experience is most likely an educated opinion on what might be harmful to children. But as I said if you'd like to present yourself as the ultimate authority then by all means...we wait with bated breath to hear what your credentials are.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:17 pm
 


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Most parents feel pretty safe letting their children watch YouTube Kids, the child-friendly version of the video platform.

But disturbing videos recently found by some moms show the social media site may not be safe for kids at all.

A Florida mother said she has found clips on YouTube and YouTube Kids that gave children instructions on how to kill themselves.

Free Hess said the first time she saw such a video was back in July when another mom alerted her to it after she and her son were watching cartoon videos on YouTube Kids. Spliced in the middle of one of the videos was footage of a man in sunglasses telling children how to slit their wrists.

Hess, a pediatrician, put out a call to action to different groups to report the video to get it removed from the site. Hess said it took YouTube Kids a week to pull it down.[/video]

Most parents feel pretty safe letting their children watch YouTube Kids, the child-friendly version of the video platform.

But disturbing videos recently found by some moms show the social media site may not be safe for kids at all.

A Florida mother said she has found clips on YouTube and YouTube Kids that gave children instructions on how to kill themselves.

Free Hess said the first time she saw such a video was back in July when another mom alerted her to it after she and her son were watching cartoon videos on YouTube Kids. Spliced in the middle of one of the videos was footage of a man in sunglasses telling children how to slit their wrists.

Hess, a pediatrician, put out a call to action to different groups to report the video to get it removed from the site. Hess said it took YouTube Kids a week to pull it down...


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:32 pm
 


I don't see any specific claim in the video below that there's reason to doubt.

But go ahead Coach; if a great expert like yourself can find one, show me SPECIFICALLY what you're talking about.

Could be fun.



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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
I don't see any specific claim in the video below that there's reason to doubt.

But go ahead Coach; if a great expert like yourself can find one, show me SPECIFICALLY what you're talking about.

Could be fun.



You are aware there are news sources beyond Fox News, right? :lol:

You old farts kill me. I have 3 kids under the age of 15. Internet and YouTube is their life. Momo is a hoax. Try reading articles outside of Fox News, perhaps some of these?

Momo Is Not Trying to Kill Children
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/ ... ax/583825/


The Momo challenge is a hoax. But the online culture and financial rewards that made it seem feasible are scary.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/m ... ncna978226

Momo Challenge isn't real: How parents can deal with internet hoaxes
https://abc7chicago.com/technology/momo ... s/5163694/

But since you like Fox News so much, how's this for you?

Creepy 'Momo suicide challenge' hoax resurfaces: What you need to know
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/creepy-mom ... ed-to-know

You were saying?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:12 am
 


Coach85 Coach85:
You were saying?


Well...with less posturing than what I just witnessed in your post I was saying this:

Toronto Sun: TDSB warns parents about Momo Challenge

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The Toronto District school Board has sent a warning to parents about a dangerous online game called the Momo Challenge where youth are encouraged to perform dangerous tasks or violent attacks.

Even though the challenge is a potential hoax, the board says it is being proactive...


'Momo challenge' rumours prompt Sask. RCMP, school division to send out tips on online safety

Edinburgh Herald: dEdinburgh mum warns parents over Momo 'suicide game

Oh oh, world's greatest authority on kids because you say you have some teenagers. You've been topped. Scottish lady says she has an 8 year old who has been freaked by the Momo Meme.

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The game is illustrated by a terrifying bug-eyed female face and shares violent images and threatens its users.

It is thought that instances of the game have been reported in Colombia, Australia, Mexico and England and has been linked to at least two deaths.

Lyn Dixon's eight-year-old son was left terrified last year when he came into contact with the game. Despite applying strict parental controls onto his use of the internet, images of the Momo face popped up on YouTube when he was watching harmless prank videos.

Lyn said: "It started with him not wanting to go upstairs on his own because it was dark up there. He was terrified and wouldn't sleep in his own bed and then we got to the bottom of it and we explained it wasn't real."

Lynn and her husband informed their son's school who gave an internet safety to talk to its pupils. It was not the first time teachers had heard of the sinister game.

But her son was scared for months after being exposed to the challenge and Lynn was worried when he told her he had seen it again recently...


CTV News: Separating fact from fiction on the Momo Challenge

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If there has been no confirmation Momo is real, does that mean there’s nothing to worry about?

Not necessarily. Just because something hasn’t been officially verified doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened.

It’s possible that children have been urged to hurt themselves or others by someone identifying themselves as Momo. It’s also possible that the entire craze has been an overblown reaction to one relatively harmless encounter, or that it was entirely fabricated from the beginning.

Making it particularly difficult to tell how much of the story is real is that many of the supposed Momo encounters begin with messages delivered in online games, where users are usually not recording their activities.

Additionally, most direct communication with Momo is said to happen via platforms such as WhatsApp and Snapchat, where conversations are likewise typically private by default.

This makes it hard for users to capture proof of any meetings with Momo – and hard for fact-checkers to definitively prove that such meetings are not happening.


Orillia Matters: Online Momo Challenge not a hoax, say police

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South Simcoe police are keeping an eye out for reports of the online Momo Challenge that encourages youth to do dangerous tasks, including self-harm, after a local school board had an incident related to the cyberbullying phenomenon.

Despite widespread claims the Momo Challenge is a hoax, including by BBC News, South Simcoe police are taking it seriously.

“We’re not treating it as a hoax,” said South Simcoe Police Staff Sgt. Steve Wilson.

He said there have been no reports of the Momo Challenge in South Simcoe, but the Simcoe Muskoka Catholic District School Board “had an incident somewhere in Simcoe County.”

“It wasn’t an incident investigated by South Simcoe (police),” he added. “We do support the school board. It is so important for parents to know what their kids are doing online.”

In light of a recent South Simcoe police and RCMP investigation involving a 12 year old girl and social media sites that led to child pornography charges last week for a 23-year-old Innisfil man, Wilson said using caution online is even more important nowadays.

“It’s so easy to become a victim now. You don’t know who’s at the other end,” he said. “People don’t talk face to face. It’s easier to hide behind their computer. I can assure you not everyone in the cyber world has the best intentions.”

South Simcoe police issued a press release Friday morning alerting the public to the Momo Challenge and urging parents to warn their children “not to engage” with the game that targets children and youth.


Huffington Post: The Momo Challenge Is A Hoax, But It's Still Putting Kids At Risk


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It's a disturbing image with an even more disturbing message so it's little wonder that the "Momo challenge" has parents everywhere on edge. But while the challenge that supposedly instructs children to harm themselves is actually a recurring viral hoax, the publicity surrounding it (and copycats) can still put kids in danger.


Regina CTV News: Yorkton mother concerned after Momo Challenge incident

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A Yorkton mother is voicing concerns about the Momo Challenge after she says her son tried to harm himself.

Melissa Mitchell is a mother of two and first heard about the Momo Challenge four days ago.

The images matched the description of a character her son Jackson had seen online three months earlier. He called the image "the chicken lady."

It wasn’t just the image that shocked Mitchell, she was also appalled by the message behind it.

“He would say that the chicken lady was going to come kill him at 3 a.m. and that the chicken lady was going to come and kill us,” she said.

Mitchell assumed it was just night terrors until she found marks on his neck as if he was trying to hurt himself. She says it was influenced by the Momo image.

“No matter where he saw it or how he saw it, it’s very real,” she said...


Dr. Jane Hubbard on VOCM: ‘Momo Challenge’ A Good Opportunity To Talk To Your Kids About Online Safety, Says Child Psychologist

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The so-called Momo Challenge is causing serious fear among parents and children alike.

While there is no actual proof that the challenge exists, it has generated great concern and reminders to parents about monitoring the internet habits of kids.

It stems from images of a frightening bird-like human figure created by a Japanese artist. The urban legend suggests that the image is being spliced into innocent children’s videos and challenging kids to do a variety of tasks that escalate to self-harm and suicide.

While no evidence exists that that is the case, it has heightened awareness about what children are consuming on the internet and social media.

Psychologist Dr. Janine Hubbard told Paddy Daly on the VOCM Morning Show kids have heard about it and are “freaked out”

She says it’s important as adults not to dismiss their fears because children have difficulty separating fact from fiction.

Hubbard says it’s also an opportunity to discuss with children how they interact with others online. She says it’s a good idea to ask children if they received a message from Momo asking for their phone number, what would they do?...


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Hubbard says it’s also an opportunity to discuss with children how they interact with others online. She says it’s a good idea to ask children if they received a message from Momo asking for their phone number, what would they do?...
Well, I'm not a child but I'd give it/them my ex-wife's number. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:21 am
 


See here's the thing, Coach...if you had just removed your inflated head from your posturing posterior and actually paid attention to what you'd already been told in the links before the ones above you'd know you've already been told facts that a wonder-parent such as you tell me you are should not find objectionable.

Nobody is denying that the idea of the MoMo meme as a wide-spread challenge like say the ice-bucket challenge is a hoax.

The danger is in the meme as what it is. A meme that parents should be aware of as part of being a responsible internet parent. At the very least it's a warning of what's out there even if the media feedback is what's feeding the frenzy.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:30 am
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
See here's the thing, Coach...if you had just removed your inflated head from your posturing posterior and actually paid attention to what you'd already been told in the links before the ones above you'd know you've already been told facts that a wonder-parent such as you tell me you are should not find objectionable.

Nobody is denying that the idea of the MoMo meme as a wide-spread challenge like say the ice-bucket challenge is a hoax.

The danger is in the meme as what it is. A meme that parents should be aware of as part of being a responsible internet parent. At the very least it's a warning of what's out there even if the media feedback is what's feeding the frenzy.


Tell me, Fiddle.

Why do you take some articles as gospel from Fox but claim others are false?

The only one with the inflated head here is you. Talk about what you know, not what you think you know.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:45 am
 


How was the ice bucket challenge a hoax? [?]


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:05 pm
 


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How was the ice bucket challenge a hoax? [?]


Wasn't clear enough, eh? No problem. I'll try again.

The ice bucket challenge was a wide-spread popular social media challenge. It was specific as to what it required.

Trying to represent the momo meme as that same sort of thing would rightfully label Momo as a hoax. By that definition it is a hoax.

I'm assuming that's what the "nothing to see here" contingent of the MSM is referring to when they call the "Momo Challenge" a hoax and tell the public 'move along, people.'

Now what I've been saying is, 'regardless of that there are problems with the meme' - and the meme does exist. I've offered links from multiple and varied sources explaining it. Apparently Coach can only see one with his political myopia problem.

Whatever...I can only keep trying. Here's another one. This time video from CTV.



Here. I'll simplify it. As a 'challenge' Momo is a hoax. As a meme it is real. It exists.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:19 pm
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Whatever...I can only keep trying. Here's another one. This time video from CTV.


Let me save you the trouble and be blunt. As a parent, I don't care what your opinion on the matter is. Is that clear enough?

You're a try-hard. Move along to pretending to be an expert on another topic.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:09 pm
 


Coach85 Coach85:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Whatever...I can only keep trying. Here's another one. This time video from CTV.


Let me save you the trouble and be blunt. As a parent, I don't care what your opinion on the matter is. Is that clear enough?

You're a try-hard. Move along to pretending to be an expert on another topic.


Right back ya, Mr. Puffy, puffed up, nothing there but hot air.

Momo is a meme. It's not one a responsible parent would want around his or her 8 year old, as the lady in the video above showed by personal example.


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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Coach85 Coach85:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Whatever...I can only keep trying. Here's another one. This time video from CTV.


Let me save you the trouble and be blunt. As a parent, I don't care what your opinion on the matter is. Is that clear enough?

You're a try-hard. Move along to pretending to be an expert on another topic.


Right back ya, Mr. Puffy, puffed up, nothing there but hot air.

Momo is a meme. It's not one a responsible parent would want around his or her 8 year old, as the lady in the video above showed by personal example.


Fiddle, how many kids do you have under the age of 15-16 in your house?

How have you discussed this with your kids?

Seeing as you say I'm blowing hot air, surely you've got a lot more experience on the things that are scaring our children.

Please detail for me how you handled this with your young children as I'm sure we'll appreciate the position from an expert.

We'll wait.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:43 pm
 


I don't discuss my personal life online. If you've heard me do it or think you have I was leading you to believe a sneaky lie. It amuses me to watch people who should know better jump to false conclusions. It tells me something about them when they do. Also, I've had to deal with some real dickheads on the internet. It's made me careful. That's as personal as I get.

As far as the topic of this thread goes though, I agree with the psychiatrist, the obstetrician and the parents in the links I've presented on the previous pages. It's best to be aware of problem phenom online such as the Momo meme and have strategies to deal. Especially if one is responsible for young children.


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