[RUEZ]

lily lily:

RUEZ RUEZ:

lily lily:

If people insist on using the word "banned" they can't object to the use of "forced".

Because you say so? Nice try. There is nothing in any story about a child forced to sing the anthem.

Exactly./ ANd there's nothing saying they're forced not to.

In the article it says he cancelled it because certain children were having a physical reaction to it. First of all I call BS on that. Secondly why would he allow individual classrooms to sing o Canada if this was one of his reasons in the first place?

[mtbr]

the anthem is a part of history.

Full History of "O Canada"

Musical note

Many people think of Calixa Lavallée as an obscure music teacher who dashed off a patriotic song in a moment of inspiration. The truth is quite different. Lavallée was, in fact, known as "Canada's national musician" and it was on this account that he was asked to compose the music for a poem written by Judge Adolphe-Basile Routhier. The occasion was the "Congrès national des Canadiens-Français" in1880, which was being held at the same time as the St. Jean-Baptiste Day celebrations.

There had been some thought of holding a competition for a national hymn to have its first performance on St. Jean-Baptiste Day, June 24, but by January the committee in charge decided there was not enough time, so the Lieutenant Governor of Quebec, the Honourable Théodore Robitaille, commissioned Judge Routhier to write a hymn and Lavallée to compose the tune. Lavallée made a number of drafts before the tune we know was greeted with enthusiasm by his musical friends. It is said that in the excitement of success Lavallée rushed to show his music to the Lieutenant Governor without even stopping to sign the manuscript.

The first performance took place on June 24, 1880 at a banquet in the "Pavillon des Patineurs" in Quebec City as the climax of a"Mosaïque sur des airs populaires canadiens " arranged by Joseph Vézina, a prominent composer and bandmaster.

Although this first performance of "O Canada" with Routhier's French words was well received on the evening, it does not seem to have made a lasting impression at that time. Arthur Lavigne, a Quebec musician and music dealer, published it without copyright but there was no rush to reprint. Lavallée's obit in 1891 doesn't mention it among his accomplishments, nor does a biography of Judge Routhier published in 1898. French Canada is represented in the 1887 edition of the University of Toronto song book by "Vive la canadienne", "A la claire fontaine" and "Un canadien errant".

English Canada in general probably first heard "O Canada" when school children sang it when the Duke and Duchess of Cornwall (later King George V and Queen Mary) toured Canada in 1901. Five years later Whaley and Royce in Toronto published the music with the French text and a translation into English made by Dr. Thomas Bedford Richardson, a Toronto doctor. The Mendelssohn Choir used the Richardson lyrics in one of their performances about this time and Judge Routhier and the French press complimented the author.





http://www.pch.gc.ca/pgm/ceem-cced/symbl/anthem-eng.cfm

[mikewood86]

lily lily:

I just think too much has been made of this. Look at the comments - next thing you know, we won't be teaching Canadian history either? It will make for less patriotic citizens?

Too much rhetoric.

Can someone truly call themselves patriotic and not know their own country's history? Do you not see whats wrong with that? I'm not saying that is what it has come to and I don't want to get off topic.

All I'm saying is give people an inch and people ask for a mile (err, kilometre).

[Brenda]

You nailed it
Canada has been metric since 1970... How many people use it? Change is hard to gasp, isn't

[Donny_Brasco]

You know when you live in a really blessed country when the top news story is about a bunch of outback maritime hippies and rednecks arguing about when and where to sing the national anthem.
“Are da enemies at by?”
“Ay Captian theys are”
“Ar the houses warm?”
“Ay Captian they are”
“Are the wmen and children fed, and is der enough beer for the men?”
“Ay Captian tis so”
“Well then, what the hell is left to do?”
“Well Captn’, the scientologist jew immigrant hippies don;ty wanna sing yer song...”

[RUEZ]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

You know when you live in a really blessed country when the top news story is about a bunch of outback maritime hippies and rednecks arguing about when and where to sing the national anthem.
“Are da enemies at by?”
“Ay Captian theys are”
“Ar the houses warm?”
“Ay Captian they are”
“Are the wmen and children fed, and is der enough beer for the men?”
“Ay Captian tis so”
“Well then, what the hell is left to do?”
“Well Captn’, the scientologist jew immigrant hippies don;ty wanna sing yer song...”

You can shove your bigotry up your ass welfare bum.

[westmanguy]

This is very simple.

This is not like the Lord's Prayer. Not all Canadians are Christian.

We are all Canadian. O Canada is our national anthem. If the atheists, immigrants, or Jehovah's Witnesses have problems with it, they are free to stand outside in the hallway.

That's what the 3 J.W. kids in my school do, and it works fine.

[RUEZ]

westmanguy westmanguy:

This is very simple.

This is not like the Lord's Prayer. Not all Canadians are Christian.

We are all Canadian. O Canada is our national anthem. If the atheists, immigrants, or Jehovah's Witnesses have problems with it, they are free to stand outside in the hallway.

That's what the 3 J.W. kids in my school do, and it works fine.

What do the J.W.'s have against the anthem?

[Gunnair]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

You know when you live in a really blessed country when the top news story is about a bunch of outback maritime hippies and rednecks arguing about when and where to sing the national anthem.
“Are da enemies at by?”
“Ay Captian theys are”
“Ar the houses warm?”
“Ay Captian they are”
“Are the wmen and children fed, and is der enough beer for the men?”
“Ay Captian tis so”
“Well then, what the hell is left to do?”
“Well Captn’, the scientologist jew immigrant hippies don;ty wanna sing yer song...”

Please don't wax idiotic and wring your hands with pent up anger when some bigot drops stupidity bombs on natives. You've just gut-punched your credibility on racial issues...

[RUEZ]

lily lily:

I think Donny made a fine point. When you've got nothing of importance to worry about, there's always meking sure little kids sing the anthem daily.

not us... we don't want to do that in our offices, but by golly the kids can do it in school.

[Brenda]

lily lily:

RUEZ RUEZ:

lily lily:

I think Donny made a fine point. When you've got nothing of importance to worry about, there's always meking sure little kids sing the anthem daily.

not us... we don't want to do that in our offices, but by golly the kids can do it in school.

Yeah, roll your eyes.

It's a good point though. Some of you seem to think this is vitally important to your patriotism, so why not demand the anthem be played at the start of each workday?

Every hour at every store

[Streaker]

lily lily:

RUEZ RUEZ:

lily lily:

I think Donny made a fine point. When you've got nothing of importance to worry about, there's always meking sure little kids sing the anthem daily.

not us... we don't want to do that in our offices, but by golly the kids can do it in school.

Yeah, roll your eyes.

It's a good point though. Some of you seem to think this is vitally important to your patriotism, so why not demand the anthem be played at the start of each workday?

It should be sung at lunchtime too. The Nation might be in Great Peril if we don't immediately enforce this.

[RUEZ]

You guys are just making up some strawmen because you know you're wrong. That's alright. You can make up all the BS you want it doesn't change anything.

[Tman1]

Might be nice to know what to be "patriotic" about. The anthem might be a good start for youngsters then develop it on their own perspective from there later on it life.

[westmanguy]

RUEZ;

The J.W.'s objection is they don't recognize any authority besides God, so in their eyes standing up for the national anthem is giving authority to the country, when only God deserves that respect.

lily;

Maybe it's different on the West Coast. But where I live, from kindergarten to Grade 12, O Canada is played, over the PA system, every morning. We don't sing it, and the kids who may object to it for any reason, are free to go to the hallway. I also see it as an effective call to order for the class. The anthem comes on, the pre-class chatter stops, kids stand up, we listen to the anthem, and then the morning announcements.

Workplaces, if privately owned, can have their own policy on whether or not to play the anthem. Although I realize it's not the reality everywhere, I think all government buildings (federal, provincial, or municipal) should play the anthem at the beginning of every school/work day.

We have little patriotism to begin with in this country, so why are we all gun ho about reducing the little patriotic moments we do have?