[Akhenaten]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Ahh, the tried and true Alberta political tactic of blaming other provinces. It's been done since the province was formed and the sheeple here love it.

I dunno what news you're reading man, but as indicated to great degree in the article this is a response to the constant blame on Alberta coming from Ontario and Quebec lately, who haven't doesn't much of anything to lower their own CO2 and in fact their own CO2 has been rising.
They're the ones scapegoating Alberta and I think that's pretty plain. IMO describing this as "the tried and true Alberta political tactic of blaming other provinces" is a grotesque spin. It's the other way around.

[gigs]

Gunnair Gunnair:

gigs gigs:

You accused me of bringing up the freshwater issue,I didn't. It wasn't until you went back and actually read the whole thread you realized you were wrong. So it was time to move the goalposts.

$1:

True, Victoria has a debate about sewage. Apples and oranges really when comparing the permanent poisoning of fresh water in the oil sands project and the potential poisoning of sea water off the coast.

Keep making your irrelevent arguments though.

Actually, I accused you of making an irrelevent argument with respect to your example.

Sorry you have some comprehension difficulties here, I`ll try my best to be more understanding.

yeah what ever.
Gunnair

$1:

Irrelevent. You brought up the topic of sewage going into salt water as a counterpoint to a discussion around the loss of fresh water.

seems as though you don't even know what you posted.

read Yogi's posts.


Water treatment technology is 3500 years old, BC still can't figure it out.
http://www.lenntech.com/history-water-treatment.htm
Oilsands extraction technology is 40 years old.

[kenmore]

Well what we have here is a PM from the province that is guilty of the most pollution in the country and his lack of interest in the environment stems from that association.. so once again hapless harper is taking the screw the rest of the provinces.... what a loser.

[Gunnair]

gigs gigs:

Gunnair Gunnair:

gigs gigs:

You accused me of bringing up the freshwater issue,I didn't. It wasn't until you went back and actually read the whole thread you realized you were wrong. So it was time to move the goalposts.

$1:

True, Victoria has a debate about sewage. Apples and oranges really when comparing the permanent poisoning of fresh water in the oil sands project and the potential poisoning of sea water off the coast.

Keep making your irrelevent arguments though.

Actually, I accused you of making an irrelevent argument with respect to your example.

Sorry you have some comprehension difficulties here, I`ll try my best to be more understanding.

yeah what ever.
Gunnair

$1:

Irrelevent. You brought up the topic of sewage going into salt water as a counterpoint to a discussion around the loss of fresh water.

seems as though you don't even know what you posted.

read Yogi's posts.


Water treatment technology is 3500 years old, BC still can't figure it out.
http://www.lenntech.com/history-water-treatment.htm
Oilsands extraction technology is 40 years old.

God, you are dense.

$1:

You brought up the topic of sewage going into salt water as a counterpoint to a discussion around the loss of fresh water

Note brought up the topic of sewage going into salt water which is not the 'freshwater issue, as you say.

Be stunned on your own time for fuck sakes.

[gigs]

Gunnair

Yogi Yogi:

Hello 'pot', this is 'kettle'. On the subject of 'clean water'. Take a look at what B.C., and Atlantic Canada does to 'clean water'!

Once again Mr Dopey, I didn't raise the issue

[Gunnair]

gigs gigs:

Gunnair

Yogi Yogi:

Hello 'pot', this is 'kettle'. On the subject of 'clean water'. Take a look at what B.C., and Atlantic Canada does to 'clean water'!

Once again Mr Dopey, I didn't raise the issue

Your avatar suits you. Wide eyed and stunned. So be it.

[gigs]

Gunnair Gunnair:

gigs gigs:

Gunnair

Yogi Yogi:

Hello 'pot', this is 'kettle'. On the subject of 'clean water'. Take a look at what B.C., and Atlantic Canada does to 'clean water'!

Once again Mr Dopey, I didn't raise the issue

Your avatar suits you. Wide eyed and stunned. So be it.

You just can't admit your accusations are wrong.

[Akhenaten]

kenmore kenmore:

Well what we have here is a PM from the province that is guilty of the most pollution in the country and his lack of interest in the environment stems from that association.. so once again hapless harper is taking the screw the rest of the provinces.... what a loser.

As usual you don't really know anything you just focus on Harper. Fact is it was the liberals who signed the Kyoto accord, it was the liberals who had 10 long years to reduce carbon emissions and it was under the Liberals that Ontario;s emissions rose 25% and the rest of the country rose as well.
CPC 'record on the environment' is pretty bad, but it was the liberals who signed the document and it was the liberals who let it fail. What losers.

[Gunnair]

gigs gigs:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Your avatar suits you. Wide eyed and stunned. So be it.

You just can't admit your accusations are wrong.

Cause they ain't.

[Gunnair]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

kenmore kenmore:

Well what we have here is a PM from the province that is guilty of the most pollution in the country and his lack of interest in the environment stems from that association.. so once again hapless harper is taking the screw the rest of the provinces.... what a loser.

As usual you don't really know anything you just focus on Harper. Fact is it was the liberals who signed the Kyoto accord, it was the liberals who had 10 long years to reduce carbon emissions and it was under the Liberals that Ontario;s emissions rose 25% and the rest of the country rose as well.
CPC 'record on the environment' is pretty bad, but it was the liberals who signed the document and it was the liberals who let it fail. What losers.

Embarrasingly true.

[bootlegga]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

bootlegga bootlegga:

Ahh, the tried and true Alberta political tactic of blaming other provinces. It's been done since the province was formed and the sheeple here love it.

I dunno what news you're reading man, but as indicated to great degree in the article this is a response to the constant blame on Alberta coming from Ontario and Quebec lately, who haven't doesn't much of anything to lower their own CO2 and in fact their own CO2 has been rising.
They're the ones scapegoating Alberta and I think that's pretty plain. IMO describing this as "the tried and true Alberta political tactic of blaming other provinces" is a grotesque spin. It's the other way around.

Nope, this is vintage Lougheed/Getty/Klein, in that instead of maturely admitting there is a problem, turning around and saying, "Yeah but those guys blah blah."

This is straight out of the Alberta PC political tactics handbook. I agree that McGuinty and others pointed fingers at us too, but just once, I'd like to see our leader not resort to such BS.

I gave Stelmach the benefit of the doubt last election and know I won't be voting for Stelmach/PCs the next time around. Like the saying goes, "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."

[Akhenaten]

Whatever bootlegga. You're not being honest, simple as that.

Ontario and Quebec complaining and complaining about Alberta has been on the front page nonstop for 3 weeks now, to the point the Quebec's own press is starting to get sick of it. That you try and spin it the other way around is just a joke and makes it easy to ignore you in the future.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Yogi Yogi:

For the record; I'm all for the 'tarsands operations' being streamlined, and cleaned up in everyway possible. However, this is not going to happen 'overnight'. The only way this can happen 'right away' as so many are demanding, without having a clue as to what is involved in such a process, is if Alberta were to cease oil operations completely! Wonder how impressed ROC would be when they go to fill up their 'gas guzzlers' in a few days, a week, a month? What do you think the price per litre at the pump would be for imported fuel eh? Doesn't matter. You wouldn't be able to afford to run your lawnmower!

Hello 'pot', this is 'kettle'. On the subject of 'clean water'. Take a look at what B.C., and Atlantic Canada does to 'clean water'!

Errmmm, we DO use imported fuel since by agreement, we have to supply the US with 67% of our total oil production, regardless of any shortages Canada may suffer.

[gigs]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Errmmm, we DO use imported fuel since by agreement, we have to supply the US with 67% of our total oil production, regardless of any shortages Canada may suffer.

Where did you get that stat from?

[PublicAnimalNo9]

It's in the original FTA dude, or maybe it got bumped up with NAFTA. I'll dig up the source.