[sandorski]

1 Innocent being executed is too many.

[Thanos]

^
Got that 100% right.

[Freakinoldguy]

Question. Are Texas Prisons like other prisons in the states that are privately run and paid for by the states therefore making them a "business" rather than like Canadian Prisons which are a Government run program?

[Gunnair]

Lemmy Lemmy:

How does it not work? It's works 100% of the time in achieving the sentencing goals of punishment and segregation and the recidivism rate is 0% among those so sentenced.

Except that it takes a hell of a long time and is amazingly expensive. Cut down time and costs, then I think you'd see real deterrence.

[redhatmamma]

So the CBC travels down to Texas to find a group of people who say they are working with drug offenders in order to get them off drugs and that our crime bill is too tough, so of course the left is jumping all over it.
It's not an apples to apples situation, other than them suggesting that locking up people for some drug crimes doesn't do any good which I concede. Aren't they really saying that their own system has seen the pendulum swing too far and only that maybe some of their sentences are too tough.

Why is getting tough on violent crime wrong, and this Texas thing doesn't convince me that Texas is saying such a thing. It's pretty near impossible in Canada to get life for murder, so why would you be in favour of letting murderers out on the street, hug a thug if it's a low level criminal, okay - but victims of assault left barely alive will see that in Canada the criminal is let out after about 4 years. In fact, major assaults can be less than 3 years, the mean length of sentence for sexual assault in Canada is 4 years, the U.S. average in general is double.

Okay, they are tough on crime and are saying maybe sometimes too tough , but I don't see anyone in Texas saying they should let murderers or violent criminals out on the streets - are they? If you think getting tough on violent crime is a bad idea cos I'd like to hear why that is, and neither do I see anything in this report that says you shouldn't get tough on violent criminals.

[CommanderSock]

Oh no, evil liberal CBC!!!

Let's be honest here, we know Harper's plan will fail. Crime rate will stay the same, costs will soar.

For example: 4 University kids stand in a circle pass a joint around, passing a joint to someone else in this legislation is a federal offence. They don't get jobs when they graduate because they have criminal records, they end up in a life of crime. Repeat across the country.

This is what's happening in the USA now.

But hey, at least we get to snidely say "I told you so" in 30 years.

That, or perhaps we should start thinking about a career in law. Lots of lawyers will be needed.

[redhatmamma]

Could you cite the particular part of the legislation please !

[herbie]

Someone who grows a dozen plants doesn't need to be imprisoned.
Hell I'd argue someone who grows 500 doesn't need to be imprisoned. The people who bought the crop should be locked up, the growers should have the tax on the undeclared income garnisheed.

[Freakinoldguy]

herbie herbie:

The people who bought the crop should be locked up

And just how do you propose our Government lock up half the United States of America?