[DrCaleb]

llama66 llama66:

He references the 10 year old in Toronto that allegedly got her Hijab cut off. Widespread coverage, but ultimately the allegations were proven to be false. Story dropped.

So, when a journalist investigated, the story changed? Isn't that what I've been saying is the difference?

[llama66]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

llama66 llama66:

He references the 10 year old in Toronto that allegedly got her Hijab cut off. Widespread coverage, but ultimately the allegations were proven to be false. Story dropped.

So, when a journalist investigated, the story changed? Isn't that what I've been saying is the difference?

No, the family conspired to commit an offence iirc. Mom put put her up to it. No media reports on that, really and any that did pop up were buried.

[DrCaleb]

llama66 llama66:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

llama66 llama66:

He references the 10 year old in Toronto that allegedly got her Hijab cut off. Widespread coverage, but ultimately the allegations were proven to be false. Story dropped.

So, when a journalist investigated, the story changed? Isn't that what I've been saying is the difference?

No, the family conspired to commit an offence iirc. Mom put put her up to it. No media reports on that, really and any that did pop up were buried.

Which is what I've been saying. News organizations reported what the witness said. But a journalist who dug deeper found it to be a lie. It was an editorial decision to publish witness statements before they were verified. The very definition of 'fake news'. I'm not saying that non-journalists shouldn't tell us what they saw or heard, etc., just that those should be not looked at with the same lens as what a journalist would report.

If Journalist were a defined profession, there would be certain checks and balances before public disclosure. Like The Globe and Mail doing a deep dive into SNC Lavalin, before publishing. That turned out to be very much in the public interest.

The difference between reporter and journalist would be easier to discern, and the lazy public would have an easier time telling the difference between them. That's the grey are where The Onion and The Beaverton live.

[BeaverFever]

Here’s a fake one one on change.org right now that more than a couple of CKA righties fell for

https://www.change.org/p/justin-trudeau ... n-citizens

[llama66]

The Police dug deeper iirc. They (the police) noticed inconsistencies in the story. Reporters and Journalists are not some highly trained lie detection machines, nor is integrity a bulwark against being biased. Cops, Attorneys, and Politicians are all supposed to have integrity. We know many of these noble professions are filled with sacks of shit.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Why not define 'Journalist'?

Because once you do that then you exclude everyone else who may have important news to share.

Those are called 'witnesses', not Journalists.

Enjoy your government-approved media.

[BRAH]

The Fuhrer has spoken!

[llama66]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Enjoy your government-approved media.

I'll have to check what the official party rebuttal is to this.

[peck420]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Enjoy your government-approved media.

Rich...coming from the country where journalists have to beg for access to their own leadership "press briefings".

You clowns have been living in fantasy land for so long you even believe your own bullshit.

[BartSimpson]

peck420 peck420:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Enjoy your government-approved media.

Rich...coming from the country where journalists have to beg for access to their own leadership "press briefings".

You clowns have been living in fantasy land for so long you even believe your own bullshit.

Here's the government you people are asking for:

https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/eye-on-g ... tZY54iV1Q/

$1:

Dept. of Homeland Security Gets Sued by NBC 7 San Diego and Reporters Committee

The Department of Homeland Security is being sued for ignoring Freedom of Information Act Request

The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, NBC 7 San Diego, and its reporter Tom Jones have filed a federal lawsuit against four government agencies for refusing to turn over records about a secret government database, in violation of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

The United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and Citizenship and Immigration Services are accused of improperly withholding information responsive to FOIA requests submitted by NBC 7 and the Reporters Committee in March 2019.

NBC 7 San Diego and the Reporters Committee filed FOIA requests regarding a United States government secret database named Operation Secure Line which kept tabs of journalists, activists, and social media influencers that were actively involved in the reporting of the U.S./Mexico border showdown in 2018-2019. The database maintained by government held information of the aforementioned.

The Operation Secure Line database lists U.S. and foreign citizens who the government deemed should be subjected to secondary screenings at the border. In some cases, “alerts” had been placed on those citizen’s passports. Those alerts prevented at least three attorneys and a photojournalist from entering Mexico to provide legal assistance to caravan members, or document the caravan’s presence in Tijuana.

NBC 7 investigative reporter Tom Jones submitted a FOIA request to CBP seeking records on initiatives created to monitor migrant caravans, along with emails and memos related to the government database.

The Reporters Committee also submitted FOIA requests seeking access to records related to the government’s secret database, guidelines, and communications.

But the Reporters Committee nor Jones received any communications from the agencies after the initial confirmation of their requests.

The Reporters Committee Legal Director Katie Townsend says:

“NBC 7’s reporting that the government has tracked journalists and, in some cases, placed holds on their passports, apparently based on the subject matter of their reporting is deeply troubling. By not responding to the FOIA requests made by NBC 7 or the Reporters Committee, these agencies are preventing the public from knowing why the United States government is monitoring and, in some cases, stopping and questioning journalists about their work at the border.”

In the lawsuit, the Reporters Committee attorneys ask the federal district court in Washington, D.C. to order the agencies to immediately process the requested records, and to prohibit them from withholding all records not exempt under FOIA.

The Reporters Committee and NBC 7 are also seeking an award of attorneys’ fees.

Hey, gotta control those journalists, right?

[BartSimpson]

peck420 peck420:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Enjoy your government-approved media.

Rich...coming from the country where journalists have to beg for access to their own leadership "press briefings".

You clowns have been living in fantasy land for so long you even believe your own bullshit.

As I read this again are you referring to how Obama systematically excluded FOX News from official event coverage?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... -newsrooms

[BartSimpson]

Here's more of what happens when the government tries to take control of the media and note that this took place on May 10, 2019...just a week ago:

https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-gon ... hdfm-VoDA/

$1:

SFPD Raids Home of Reporter who Refused to Reveal Source of Leaked Police Report

The leaked document was the death report of the city's public defender, Jeff Adachi, who died in February.

Bryan Carmody, a veteran news videographer in San Francisco, was jolted awake by police trying to bust his door down with a sledge hammer Friday morning.

"I heard this gnarly sound, which sounded like somebody was trying to break into my house," Carmody said early Sunday morning in a telephone interview with Photography is Not a Crime.

"Well, it was. It was the San Francisco Police Department with a couple of FBI agents."

The cops were trying to identity the person who leaked the death report of San Francisco Public Defender Jeff Adachi, who died in February under mysterious circumstances in an apartment that did not belong to him with a woman who was not his wife.

Adachi, 59, was a frequent critic of abusive cops and an advocate for criminal justice reform. It was no secret the cops did not like him.

And they are apparently upset that they were not called to the scene where Adachi died until three hours after the paramedics had arrived.

Initial reports stated Acachi died of a heart attack but an autopsy released a month later stated the heart attack was caused by cocaine and alcohol that he willingly consumed so maybe the cops are upset they were not given the chance to make arrests.

For reasons that are not yet clear, the San Francisco Police Department really did not want that report leaked because they detained Carmody for seven hours, keeping him handcuffed while going through all his personal belongings and confiscating cameras, computers, tablets, hard drives and phones in the hopes of finding anything that would identify his source.

And when they did not find what they were looking for, they searched his office, which is about five miles away.

His surveillance camera apparently captured it all. The cops did not confiscate it. Carmody is not posting the video at this time but has posted a few screenshots, including one of him in handcuffs, the other of them trying to enter with sledgehammers.

And do note that this bullshit came out of 100% Democrat owned and operated San Francisco.

[raydan]

A lot of people have lost the ability to think for themselves. A Republican/Conservative will see an anti Obama/Trudeau story or meme and believe it without thought. If they see an anti Trump/Harper story or meme, they'll scream fake news.

The opposite is also true for Lefties... so don't get your panties in a knot, Righties.

I think that's why I like my friends who are more in the middle. I least with them, I don't feel the need to slap them upside the head every 5 minutes.

[BartSimpson]

raydan raydan:

A lot of people have lost the ability to think for themselves. A Republican/Conservative will see an anti Obama/Trudeau story or meme and believe it without thought. If they see an anti Trump/Harper story or meme, they'll scream fake news.

The opposite is also true for Lefties... so don't get your panties in a knot, Righties.

I think that's why I like my friends who are more in the middle. I least with them, I don't feel the need to slap them upside the head every 5 minutes.

I hope you're not talking about me because you'll notice the first story I posted was about the current Dept. of Homeland Security...not the past administration.

I don't care who infringes on the press/media/journalists/citizen reporters I'll oppose it.

[raydan]

Try to guess what I'd do to you right now if you were within reach?


Besides, didn't you read the part of my post about panties and knots?