[bootlegga]

Thanos Thanos:

Said it before, saying it again - I'll crack a beer open when the damn line is finished and fully operational and not until then. There's still an endless number of knives, legal or otherwise, available to the adversary to shove into the back of this development.

My thoughts exactly.

[peck420]

herbie herbie:

Duh!
The problem was solved just as I said it would be. And all the opposition that happens from now on will have less chance than a Hail Mary pass. The BC gov't knew months ago it can only put on a show, but it still will.
As for the dimwits that can't even look at a map and skipped Grade 9 Geography, you'll just have to live without the Enbridge line being revived, cuz the tanker ban stays.
You'll get something to whine about when TMX is all done and China says Fuck You! to Alberta oil.

Sheep are so damn predictable.

[herbie]

$1:

jobs it would provide for BC citizens

Do you own a fleet of trucks and dozers? If you did you'd get to bid for a couple weeks work while it goes through your area. Are you a welder? Maybe you'll get a years work if you're real lucky.
A handful of people will get some permanent jobs in Burnaby at the terminal.
That doesn't come near the REAL jobs just lost at either Chasm or Vavenby

[peck420]

Baaaaaaaaaaaa

[PublicAnimalNo9]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

What's the point of approving it as long as bill C-48 is still in play. Groper's cabinet may have approved the TMX but his Senate appointees are keeping the tanker ban alive. The expansion is pointless if we can't export that oil.

The tanker ban is for the north end of the straight of Haida Gwaii. Ie: Prince Rupert. Not Vancouver and the Salish Sea.

Yeesh. How the hell did I miss that. Okay, n/m.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

herbie herbie:

$1:

jobs it would provide for BC citizens

Do you own a fleet of trucks and dozers? If you did you'd get to bid for a couple weeks work while it goes through your area. Are you a welder? Maybe you'll get a years work if you're real lucky.
A handful of people will get some permanent jobs in Burnaby at the terminal.
That doesn't come near the REAL jobs just lost at either Chasm or Vavenby

The Vavenby jobs look like they'll be going to Kamloops.
And West Fraser's first-quarter financial report points to the BC govt's policies that have affected BC's forest sector. Albeit the pine beetle isn't helping things any either.

But you're right, since the expansion won't solve BC's loss of jobs in the forest sector there's no point in building it at all. Might as well have no new jobs instead of a few new jobs.

[DrCaleb]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

But you're right, since the expansion won't solve BC's loss of jobs in the forest sector there's no point in building it at all. Might as well have no new jobs instead of a few new jobs.

Now you are thinking like John Horgan!

[FieryVulpine]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Thanos Thanos:

You can bet your last dollar that BC and all the activists are busily judge-shopping as hard as they can to find the court most likely to issue another injunction to shut it down again. There is no end to this because that's what Trudeau's already done with the existing regulations. When the new anti-Alberta bills become law the situation will be even worse.

I laugh at the irony of US States taking BC to court because of river pollution as well. At least it isn't in the ocean!

https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2019/ ... ouder.html

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.5180818

To say nothing about how much coal is exported through the port of Vancouver, which makes BC look like the biggest environmental hypocrites in the country. They caterwaul about pipelines, but show no concern about CO2 emissions when it's another country that burns it.

[peck420]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

But you're right, since the expansion won't solve BC's loss of jobs in the forest sector there's no point in building it at all. Might as well have no new jobs instead of a few new jobs.

Why should any Canadian WANT to save these types of environmentally damaging jobs.

BC should have planned for this years ago, and diversified...or something.

If the workers weren't, or aren't, smart enough to retrain, that is their fault and problem.

[fifeboy]

peck420 peck420:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

But you're right, since the expansion won't solve BC's loss of jobs in the forest sector there's no point in building it at all. Might as well have no new jobs instead of a few new jobs.

Why should any Canadian WANT to save these types of environmentally damaging jobs.

BC should have planned for this years ago, and diversified...or something.

If the workers weren't, or aren't, smart enough to retrain, that is their fault and problem.

Diversified,,,now who’da thunk it. But only good for the BC goose, not for the Alberta gander. “Who needs a Heritage Fund and education, we got oils and The Big Oilies gonna take care of us.

[Thanos]

The near-trillion dollars worth of taxes that got taken out of Alberta by Ottawa over the last fifty years pretty much ensured that even with the HTF we'd never have enough savings to either diversify or to help those who got nailed during the bust part of the cycle. Good to see the rest of the country still finds it all so amusing to watch though. Canada. Yay.

[Freakinoldguy]

herbie herbie:

Duh!
The problem was solved just as I said it would be. And all the opposition that happens from now on will have less chance than a Hail Mary pass. The BC gov't knew months ago it can only put on a show, but it still will.

Despite the fact that Horgan is still publicly stating that BC will continue to fight the pipeline, I think the tools have run out of tools in their tool bag and Horgan is only keeping up the pipeline fight rhetroic to show Andrew Weaver that he did everything legally possible to oppose the pipeline like he wanted and that he still deserves the Greens support.

But, now the ball is in Weaver's court because he's the one who kept appearing on TV and playing to the lunatic fringe by reiterating that "this pipeline will never be built". So it'll be interesting to see how a party with 3 members in the Legislature legally stop something that's eventually going to get built, crazies on the protest line or not.

[llama66]

herbie herbie:

Is what I got from your posts.

[peck420]

fifeboy fifeboy:

Diversified,,,now who’da thunk it. But only good for the BC goose, not for the Alberta gander. “Who needs a Heritage Fund and education, we got oils and The Big Oilies gonna take care of us.

I would wager big oil will take far better care of me than their Chinese landlords.

However, I think we are all failing to see the golden opportunity here. If BC cries into their own cups, and drinks it, they can become the pinnacle of self sustainment they pretend they can be!

Just believe in your self, and you too can achieve this greatness!

[fifeboy]

Thanos Thanos:

The near-trillion dollars worth of taxes that got taken out of Alberta by Ottawa over the last fifty years pretty much ensured that even with the HTF we'd never have enough savings to either diversify or to help those who got nailed during the bust part of the cycle. Good to see the rest of the country still finds it all so amusing to watch though. Canada. Yay.

Sorry dude, but everyone pays taxes, Harper had numerous years to make changes and didn’t. Equalization payments come out of everyone’s pockets and most of it does not go to Ontario, but to help out in provinces that need it, Did you want Alberta to take a Skroog McDuck approach? “It’s mine, mine... they were rolling in dough during the good years, didn’t save and now it hurts. Learn a lesson from it.