[Newsbot]

Title: Trudeau should probably stop telling desperate refugees that everyone is welcome in Canada
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: ShepherdsDog
Date: 2017-04-03 07:33:07
Canadian

[ShepherdsDog]

But...but...he gets to take so many pictures and look like such a cool guy.

[BRAH]

They're not refugees they're illegal immigrants who should be sent back.

[Alta_redneck]

I wish the RCMP would stop helping them up the Canadian side of the ditch and stop carrying their luggage to the cop cars.

[BeaverFever]

BRAH BRAH:

They're not refugees they're illegal immigrants who should be sent back.

YOU wouldn't have any idea if they're refugees or not since you don't know their individual circumstances.

And if they're applying for refugee status upon arrival they're not "illegal immigrants"

[PluggyRug]

I doubt any are refugees as they are crossing from the US, so what does that make them?

[Lemmy]

It makes them the same as your ancestors who came here searching for something better.

[PluggyRug]

Lemmy Lemmy:

It makes them the same as your ancestors who came here searching for something better.

Unfortunately it's not quite the sane scenario.

[Lemmy]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Unfortunately it's not quite the sane scenario.

You're right, there's nothing sane about xenophobia.

[N_Fiddledog]

Are you talking about the border jumpers? If so, there's this:

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The Safe Third Country Agreement is an agreement between the governments of Canada and the United States to better manage the flow of refugee claimants at the shared land border.

Under the Canada-U.S. Safe Third Country Agreement, persons seeking refugee protection must make a claim in the first country they arrive in (United States or Canada), unless they qualify for an exception to the Agreement. Therefore, refugee claimants arriving from the United States at the Canada-United States land border may be allowed to pursue their refugee claims in Canada if they meet an exception under the Safe Third Country Agreement.

The Safe Third Country Agreement does not apply to U.S. citizens or to habitual residents of the United States who are not citizens of any country

But if you go to the exceptions section of that government website you come to this.

$1:

A refugee claimant will not be eligible to have his/her claim referred to the IRB if:

the claimant had arrived in Canada directly from a designated safe third country

Therefore it would seem he would be disqualified and the following would come into effect sending him back directly from the border crossing.

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If the border services officer has determined that a refugee claimant is not eligible to make a refugee claim in Canada, his/her claim will not be referred to the IRB and he/she will be issued a removal order and immediately returned back to the United States.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/agency-agenc ... protection

So it sounds like if you go to the America/Canada border and claim refugee status you'll get sent back, but apparently you can get past that by border jumping illegally because...I don't know why...

But sounds illegal to me, so yeah, I'm calling "illegal immigrant" too. Something's illegal there or who needs border crossings? Why wouldn't everybody jump the border if it's not illegal? Brah sounds correct when he says "illegal immigrant". Personally I would have said immigrant invader.

[N_Fiddledog]

Lemmy Lemmy:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Unfortunately it's not quite the sane scenario.

You're right, there's nothing sane about xenophobia.

Oh dear, Lemmy's got a term. Everybody has to shut up now. No place for rational fact based argument anymore cause Lemmy's got a term.

[BartSimpson]

Lemmy Lemmy:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Unfortunately it's not quite the sane scenario.

You're right, there's nothing sane about xenophobia.

There's nothing sane about letting people into your country who are facing deportation from the US due to their past felony convictions.

[herbie]

$1:

There's nothing sane about letting people into your country who are facing deportation from the US due to their past felony convictions.

So is that the story being spread these days? The standard terrorist claim is getting a little long in the tooth?
They're running away from the USA because they're criminals.

If they were escaping Canada, I'd be fucking ashamed. But since the Trumpoids appeared, there is no shame on the right.

[N_Fiddledog]

Actually a lot of these border jumper "refugee" claimants are landing in airports or taking conventional transportation to the border through America, then jumping the Canadian border illegally.

If we're talking exceptions, I mean....like the the criminals that no doubt have taken cover with the incoming groups, or will, of course join the expected, greatly increased, invading horde this summer.

But in general it's illegal to jump the border. They're breaking the law. And it's being allowed, because...nobody seems to know.

[BRAH]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

BRAH BRAH:

They're not refugees they're illegal immigrants who should be sent back.

YOU wouldn't have any idea if they're refugees or not since you don't know their individual circumstances.

And if they're applying for refugee status upon arrival they're not "illegal immigrants"

If they crossing from the United States they're illegal immigrants and should enter the Country through the proper legal channels immigrants do to become Canadian citizens.