[Bodah]

Since the majority of the violent gun crimes have been from Jamaican communities in Toronto from a majority of families where no fathers are present.

I think I know what the problem is, and it isn't lack of food and shelter; or to adress Curt's Harper angle. It isn't because Harper passed mandatory minimun sentences for convicted criminals that judges have been ignoring.

[BartSimpson]

Bodah Bodah:

Since the majority of the violent gun crimes have been from Jamaican communities in Toronto from a majority of families where no fathers are present.

I think I know what the problem is, and it isn't lack of food and shelter; or to adress Curt's point because Harper passed mandatory minimun sentences for convicted criminals that judges have been ignoring.

Oh, no. The problem isn't Jamaicans, you RACIST!!!!!, the problem is income inequality and a lack of funding for government programs, don't you know?

[/sarcasm]

You're spot on with this but you need to take it one step further: the problem is Jamaicans in Canada. Send the criminally inclined Jamaicans back whence they came and you won't need to worry about them. The other two will fit in just fine, I'm sure.

[Bodah]

The underlying problem is lack of basic family structure. Mom and Dad are required.

There's too many one parent families out there.

[Gunnair]

Curtman Curtman:

$1:

According to preliminary statistics posted on the police website, there have been 140 reported shooting incidents as of July 16.

That’s an increase of 32.1 per cent compared with the number reported at the same time last year.

The tough on crime conservatives had better have some better ideas than what they've been doing for the past 6 years. They've clearly failed, in an extraordinary way. Prohibition causes gangsterism. Take their turf away completely, never mind tougher sentencing it doesn't fix anything.

There's a certain truth to what you state here, but it never fails to amaze me how fast you come down on the government while the sentient human beings who thought it'd be a great idea to have a shootout in the middle of 200 innocent people get mostly a by from you.

Ever occur to you the bad guys have a role in this as well or is just the bad CPC government to be blamed as the enablers here?

[Gunnair]

Bodah Bodah:

The underlying problem is lack of basic family structure. Mom and Dad are required.

There's too many one parent families out there.

Makes you wonder how all those families that lost fathers in WWI and WWII survived without resorting to non-stop gun crime.

[BartSimpson]

Bodah Bodah:

The underlying problem is lack of basic family structure. Mom and Dad are required.

There's too many one parent families out there.

Seems the 'radical conservatives' at the New York Times agree with you.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/us/tw ... wanted=all

[Tricks]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Bodah Bodah:

The underlying problem is lack of basic family structure. Mom and Dad are required.

There's too many one parent families out there.

Makes you wonder how all those families that lost fathers in WWI and WWII survived without resorting to non-stop gun crime.

Dad left for a reason.

[Gunnair]

Tricks Tricks:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Bodah Bodah:

The underlying problem is lack of basic family structure. Mom and Dad are required.

There's too many one parent families out there.

Makes you wonder how all those families that lost fathers in WWI and WWII survived without resorting to non-stop gun crime.

Dad left for a reason.

Maybe. Doesn't erase the fact that the father figure is missing.

Wonder what the stats are for crime when both parents are there... but they're shitpumps.

Point is, Dad not being there is not the be all end all of reasons why these little fuckfaces think it's great to shoot up a party with pistols. I wonder why Mom gets a by and mostly, I wonder why the sentient fuckface gets the by.

Maybe the sentient fuckface is just a sentient fuckface and no amount of mollycoddling from Mom, Dad, teachers, and society will change the fact that said fuckface thinks opening up in a crowd with kids is legitimate.

Although it's dumb, it's times like this where I'll give the argument a smidgen of credence that had a bunch of people been packing, then maybe chickenshit fuckfaces would not have gotten all tough and stuff, pulled guns, and started blazing. Maybe all tough and stuff fuckfaces would have pissed themselves silly with concept of all the bullets coming down range had they pulled their pieces.

Fuck sakes, shit like this makes me really fucking hate people!!!

[RUEZ]

I'm just waiting for some leftard to link the dissolved long gun registry to an increase in handgun crime.

[OnTheIce]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Point is, Dad not being there is not the be all end all of reasons why these little fuckfaces think it's great to shoot up a party with pistols. I wonder why Mom gets a by and mostly, I wonder why the sentient fuckface gets the by.

A man learns how to be a man by the examples set by men in their life. When little Tyrone grows up without dad, mom can't teach him how to be a man. She can try, but there's no substitute for either mom or dad.

When the only male influence these males have are drug-dealing cousins and gang members, also raised by mom only, these kids don't stand a chance.

[Gunnair]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Point is, Dad not being there is not the be all end all of reasons why these little fuckfaces think it's great to shoot up a party with pistols. I wonder why Mom gets a by and mostly, I wonder why the sentient fuckface gets the by.

A man learns how to be a man by the examples set by men in their life. When little Tyrone grows up without dad, mom can't teach him how to be a man. She can try, but there's no substitute for either mom or dad.

When the only male influence these males have are drug-dealing cousins and gang members, also raised by mom only, these kids don't stand a chance.

Had no Dad Save for weekend visits and I turned out fine.

Parenting only takes so much blame. Even a fucktard realizes that firing guns off in a crowd of women and children should be considered bad.

Little Johnny Fuckface simply does not care and I'm tired of excuses that even the right will come up with.

[Zipperfish]

andyt andyt:

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Curtman
Its one thing to say ok soft drug should be legal that does not mean there would be drug dealers what you would have to do is set it up like the Lcbo if you just say no were going to just allow drug dealers well Canada would end up like another Mexico.

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[Zipperfish]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Bodah Bodah:

The underlying problem is lack of basic family structure. Mom and Dad are required.

There's too many one parent families out there.

Makes you wonder how all those families that lost fathers in WWI and WWII survived without resorting to non-stop gun crime.

Wow. Never even thought about that before. Perhapws there would have been more of a sense of community for those families who lost fathers who sacrificed their lives. Or maybe those fatherless kids did have higher crime rates?

[EyeBrock]

We will hear the usual 'under funded' this and 'poor housing' that but the real issues of cultural and endemic violence will be ignored out of fear that calling it as its would be racist.

[raydan]

$1:

Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair called Monday's mass shooting in Toronto's east end “the worst incident of gun violence in my memory, anywhere in North America".

Seems that Mr. Blair doesn't get out much, or his memory isn't very good.

$1:

- March 10, 2009: Michael McLendon, 28, killed 10 people - including his mother, four other relatives, and the wife and child of a local sheriff's deputy - across two rural Alabama counties. He then killed himself.

- April 16, 2007: Seung-Hui Cho, 23, kills 32 people and himself on Virginia Tech campus in Blacksburg, Va.

- April 20, 1999: Students Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, opened fire at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., killing 12 classmates and a teacher and wounding 26 others before killing themselves in the school's library.

- October 16, 1991: A deadly shooting rampage took place in Killeen, Texas, as George Hennard opened fire at a Luby's Cafeteria, killing 23 people before taking his own life. 20 others were wounded in the attack.

- June 18, 1990: James Edward Pough shoots people at random in a General Motors Acceptance Corp office in Jacksonville, Fla., killing 10 and wounding four, before killing himself.

- December 6, 1989: Marc Lepine, 25, bursts into Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique college, shooting at women he encounters, killing nine and then himself.