[N_Fiddledog]

desertdude desertdude:

But here we are talking not about aid, these are CSF funds owed to us, not aid, big difference.

No. It is aid delivered through CSF.

$1:

Pakistan receives foreign aid from several countries and international organizations. Since the start of the War in Afghanistan, the majority of the aid comes from the United States via the Coalition Support Fund which is reimbursement to Pakistan for counter-terrorism operations. Foreign aid from America has been stopped in 2018.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_aid_to_Pakistan

And for the most part it sounds like what was delivered was misused.

[Sunnyways]

The population of Pakistan is now 207 million:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... ceddec6697

That fertility chart is interesting. Iran and Bangladesh have done a far better job at bringing the number of kids per woman down. Still, if East and West Pakistan were still one country, it would now be the third most populous in the world.

The most violent province, KP, has seen almost a doubling of its population since the last census. Hardly a coincidence.

[CharlesAnthony]

I like the joke about Americans providing "aid" to anybody except themselves but this announcement is the typical American bully fake news. .



In The Americanarcky, MAGAlandians fly over Pakistaniland and pay Pakistanilandians to keep quiet. The MAGAlandians spread bullshit to intimidate negotiations for the renewal of the contract. It is in everybody's advantage to keep their respective publics in the dark by calling the money transfer foreign "aid" of a nebulous kind.

[desertdude]

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

The population of Pakistan is now 207 million:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... ceddec6697

That fertility chart is interesting. Iran and Bangladesh have done a far better job at bringing the number of kids per woman down. Still, if East and West Pakistan were still one country, it would now be the third most populous in the world.

The most violent province, KP, has seen almost a doubling of its population since the last census. Hardly a coincidence.

Although mostly factually correct save for the last line, it is right now one of the safest after 5 years of our current PMs party provincial govt with astounding police and judicial reforms and rooting out almost all corruption, something that helped it get re-elected, something unheard of as KP till date has never re-elected any govt provincially and also help it win the General Elections on the back of its performance there. I don't see the relevance of this article in this discussion ? More relevant would be the linked article in that page

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... bc02927f45

Understand this, this spate is not very different than your NAFTA spate with the US, where the US has back stabbed one of its allies, acting the bully and now trying to dictate Canada on what to do and to further pressurize said ally is pretending to me more chummy with Mexico and trying to make Canada look like the bad guy. Just to look like a tough bad ass to his MAGAs back home.

[Zipperfish]

I do have to admit China is looking a lot more stable than the US these days.

Also, aid is the biggest lie in the business. It's payment for services rendered or expected. The aid agencies are more a cover for spies than anything else.

[desertdude]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I do have to admit China is looking a lot more stable than the US these days.

And its more of a natural alliance for us, specially after we have been back stabbed and bullied by the US since the 80s.

[newz]

Good! Until Pakistan throws off the yoke of Islam they deserve no funding. Same for all islamic shitholes in the world.

[herbie]

newz newz:

Good! Until Pakistan throws off the yoke of Islam they deserve no funding. Same for all islamic shitholes in the world.

We believe in freedom of religion. Here is the list of religions you are free to choose from. Kind of like the list of candidates they'd "let" you democratically choose from, eh?

[llama66]

We believe in freedom of religion*

*unless that religion is not Christianity, then you're a godless heathen that deserves death unless you convert.

[BartSimpson]

herbie herbie:

newz newz:

Good! Until Pakistan throws off the yoke of Islam they deserve no funding. Same for all islamic shitholes in the world.

We believe in freedom of religion. Here is the list of religions you are free to choose from. Kind of like the list of candidates they'd "let" you democratically choose from, eh?

If you believe in the freedom of religion then why would you take issue with replacing a religiously-oriented government with a secular democratic government?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Pakistan

$1:

The constitution of Pakistan establishes Islam as the state religion

[Zipperfish]

llama66 llama66:

We believe in freedom of religion*

*unless that religion is not Christianity, then you're a godless heathen that deserves death unless you convert.

Speak for yourself. Not a big fan of it myself.

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

llama66 llama66:

We believe in freedom of religion*

*unless that religion is not Christianity, then you're a godless heathen that deserves death unless you convert.

Speak for yourself. Not a big fan of it myself.

Sure you do. Because it isn't Freedom of Religion unless you're also free to not participate in religion.

Seriously, unless everyone has the right to act according to their own conscience then no one can be free.

[Sunnyways]

desertdude desertdude:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I do have to admit China is looking a lot more stable than the US these days.

And its more of a natural alliance for us, specially after we have been back stabbed and bullied by the US since the 80s.

Yes and no. Yes, the Americans have shown themselves to be unreliable allies - I don’t think there’s any other kind - and Afghanistan’s problems will never be solved without the participation of regional powers like Russia, Iran and Pakistan, Mr. Pompeo. Furthermore, it is true that China has made significant recent contributions to Pakistan’s development. However, I would counsel caution on any Pakistani alliance with the Arabs or Chinese. Their attitude to South Asians of any religion is well documented and runs deep. They despise you. Imagine a South Asian CEO of a large company in the People's Republic. That actually happens on the other side of the world, in America. So deal with the countries closest to you first because they will never lose interest in the region but have no illusions about them.

[BartSimpson]

China expressed their opinions of Islam in 2008 when they slaughtered the Uighurs en masse, wiped out a thousand year old city, and no one else gave shit.

Then about a year later they quelled a Muslim uprising by citing an outbreak of plague or some such, quarantining a city, and then slaughtering as many as 100,000 Muslims and again no one gave shit.

[Sunnyways]

Like the Cultural Revolution and other horrific catastrophes, China’s abuse of the Uighurs will take decades to document in any detail.