[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

All valid questions. And what does his working for an oil company in Ukraine have to do with the POTUS asking China to interfere in the 2020 US election, on live TV?

Nothing. Whataboutery.

Here's some reading for you to do:

https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-th ... dens-kids/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -trip.html

[Freakinoldguy]

Thanos Thanos:

"Innocent" and "Trump" don't belong in the same sentence together, hoss.

Much like Pelosi and rational, AOC and sane, Biden and truthful, or Clinton and honest. You could go on forever if you wanted but, if the truth be told everyone of the worlds pond scum politicians are all deceptive lying conniving societal sociopaths so, why would you expect Trump to be any different.

[BeaverFever]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Thanos Thanos:

"Innocent" and "Trump" don't belong in the same sentence together, hoss.

Much like Pelosi and rational, AOC and sane, Biden and truthful, or Clinton and honest. You could go on forever if you wanted but, if the truth be told everyone of the worlds pond scum politicians are all deceptive lying conniving societal sociopaths so, why would you expect Trump to be any different.

Nobody has ever reached the criminality and dishonesty of Trump and his cronies. Being cynical and saying they’re all flawed so what does any of it matter is exactly the slippery moral slope people like him want you in. There is a difference.

[Tricks]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

All valid questions. And what does his working for an oil company in Ukraine have to do with the POTUS asking China to interfere in the 2020 US election, on live TV?

Nothing. Whataboutery.

Here's some reading for you to do:

https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-th ... dens-kids/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -trip.html

A book that has documented plagiarism and has entire parts of it already debunked?

[Freakinoldguy]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Thanos Thanos:

"Innocent" and "Trump" don't belong in the same sentence together, hoss.

Much like Pelosi and rational, AOC and sane, Biden and truthful, or Clinton and honest. You could go on forever if you wanted but, if the truth be told everyone of the worlds pond scum politicians are all deceptive lying conniving societal sociopaths so, why would you expect Trump to be any different.

Nobody has ever reached the criminality and dishonesty of Trump and his cronies. Being cynical and saying they’re all flawed so what does any of it matter is exactly the slippery moral slope people like him want you in. There is a difference.

You have heard of one Bill Clinton haven't you? Or maybe Ms Hillary Clinton? Or how about our own PM, who's a proven culturally appropriating black face wearing groper who's got the ethics of an three legged alley cat.

So, before you attack Donald Trump and his cronies you might want to make sure the people you're giving a pass to actually deserve it because to say that Donald Trump is worse than any of the aforementioned people is pretty much a partisan fantasy.

But if you don't mind could you name all the honest, good and uncorruptible current politicians so I can stop lumping them in with the rest of the pond scum vermin that seems to gravitate to the political trough.

[BeaverFever]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Nobody has ever reached the criminality and dishonesty of Trump and his cronies. Being cynical and saying they’re all flawed so what does any of it matter is exactly the slippery moral slope people like him want you in. There is a difference.

You have heard of one Bill Clinton haven't you? Or maybe Ms Hillary Clinton? Or how about our own PM, who's a proven culturally appropriating black face wearing groper who's got the ethics of an three legged alley cat.

So, before you attack Donald Trump and his cronies you might want to make sure the people you're giving a pass to actually deserve it because to say that Donald Trump is worse than any of the aforementioned people is pretty much a partisan fantasy.

But if you don't mind could you name all the honest, good and uncorruptible current politicians so I can stop lumping them in with the rest of the pond scum vermin that seems to gravitate to the political trough.

Why don’t you just re-read my last post that you quoted above that way I don’t have to repeat myself. It already easily rebuts everything you’ve just written here.

[Freakinoldguy]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Nobody has ever reached the criminality and dishonesty of Trump and his cronies. Being cynical and saying they’re all flawed so what does any of it matter is exactly the slippery moral slope people like him want you in. There is a difference.

You have heard of one Bill Clinton haven't you? Or maybe Ms Hillary Clinton? Or how about our own PM, who's a proven culturally appropriating black face wearing groper who's got the ethics of an three legged alley cat.

So, before you attack Donald Trump and his cronies you might want to make sure the people you're giving a pass to actually deserve it because to say that Donald Trump is worse than any of the aforementioned people is pretty much a partisan fantasy.

But if you don't mind could you name all the honest, good and uncorruptible current politicians so I can stop lumping them in with the rest of the pond scum vermin that seems to gravitate to the political trough.

Why don’t you just re-read my last post that you quoted above that way I don’t have to repeat myself. It already easily rebuts everything you’ve just written here.

Sorry but it definitely doesn't rebutt anything. All it does is "accuse" Trump and his cronies of being criminals and dishonest. So, the question becomes, what actual crimes has Trump been found guilty of?

His corporations have been found guilty in lawsuits and have made settlements but Trump to my knowledge has never been found guilty of any criminal accusation. So, other than the usual corporate shenanigans that most other wealthy people have used in the course of their business (and going bankrupt, being sued and suing numerous times isn't a crime), could you kindly correct me if I'm wrong about his criminal past and present.

And for the record, I know some people who have been found guilty of a crime but, that still doesn't make me a criminal because guilt by association unless used during the commission of an indictable offense isn't a crime, yet.

So, accusing Trump and his administration of being criminals without having garned a conviction doesn't make it anymore true than it die in Clinton's or Obama's term which, is why I used the examples I did. Although with Clinton, he actually did get impeached which makes what he did immoral but, still not criminal.

But I will stand by my claim that politicians are as a group, Trump and Trudeau included are nothing more than self serving pond scum more intent on either personal gain or pushing an agenda with no regard for the people or country they were chosen to represent.

[DrCaleb]

Tricks Tricks:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

All valid questions. And what does his working for an oil company in Ukraine have to do with the POTUS asking China to interfere in the 2020 US election, on live TV?

Nothing. Whataboutery.

Here's some reading for you to do:

https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-th ... dens-kids/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -trip.html

A book that has documented plagiarism and has entire parts of it already debunked?

Things I already knew; corporations acting badly. That is their job.

And not once did I read any of them asking those countries they were doing business in to interfere in the US presidential elections. Like Trump did, on live TV.

[DrCaleb]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Sorry but it definitely doesn't rebutt anything. All it does is "accuse" Trump and his cronies of being criminals and dishonest. So, the question becomes, what actual crimes has Trump been found guilty of?

The Muller report found evidence of obstruction of justice, but reserved whether crimes had been committed, as that was DOJ policy not to accuse sitting Presidents.

But whether he as committed a crime or not is not relevant; the provisions of the US constitution allow for impeachment based on 'high crimes and misdemeanors', because the drafters of that document knew there could be some corrupt individual in office that could be skeezy, but still commit no crime. Such a person is not fit for that officer, and should be removed.