[Curtman]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Thank God those "tax and spend" Tories aren't in charge of the province.

[Curtman]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Curtman Curtman:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Why would we need to lower our tax rate to bring in new business or increased investment? You plan for tomorrow....you don't cut off your nose in spite of your face.

Why would we need to if our corporate tax rate is already the lowest in the G8, and our personal income tax rates among the highest? It's a ridiculous argument that you are making.

Try knowing what you're talking about.

I wanted to check up on your claim, that our "personal income tax rates among the highest".

Of the G8 countries, our tax rate is 2nd lowest. The only Country with a lower personal income tax rate is Japan.

Just for reference..

Corporate Tax Rates:


Personal Tax Burden:



Our corporate tax rate is just fine where it is. It's our personal taxes that are the problem.

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Secondly, we have a double-dip Corporate tax structure, so the federal rate may be 16.5% but that number could jump to ~31% depending on which Province you operate in.

Here in Manitoba it is 0%. The NDP did that. What did it get us? A Billion dollar deficit. Lesson learned.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Curtman Curtman:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Thank God those "tax and spend" Tories aren't in charge of the province.

Maybe you should come back and discuss politics after you grow some new brain cells.
First off, what part of "The Ontario Liberals have given corporate tax cuts of 2-4%, raised taxes on EVERYONE and EVERYTHING else and is subsidizing mega corporations" do you not understand?

Secondly, I didn't vote for any of those assholes pictured.

Third, if you really think Martin is some kind of national fiscal hero, I strongly suggest reading up on his tenure with Canada Steamship Lines.
Then you can see how your hero eroded the tax base and cost Canadian jobs!

[OnTheIce]

Curtman Curtman:

Just for reference..

Corporate Tax Rates:


Personal Tax Burden:



Our corporate tax rate is just fine where it is. It's our personal taxes that are the problem.

Here in Manitoba it is 0%. The NDP did that. What did it get us? A Billion dollar deficit. Lesson learned.

It's only 0% for the first 400k, after that, it's 12% for a combined tax hit of 28.5%. And then again, it's Manitoba, corporations aren't flocking to that dump of a Province anyways.

Ontario combined rate is 33%.

BC: 26.5%

Quebec: 28%

Alberta:26.5%

Like most left-tards, you want to soak the companies of tax dollars and lower those income taxes for people. You fail to realise when you soak companies, they leave, move provinces or fire a ton of people so, what's the personal tax rate on someone making $0?

[Lemmy]

What we really need is a distinction between small business and big business tax rates. Small businesses are way over taxed. Mega corporations are way undertaxed. We also need rates harmonized, provincially, across the country to prevent companies from having an incentive to move around.

[Bruce_the_vii]

they always talk about trade wars as if the would be the end of the world. Meanwhile most countries seem to be lowering corporate taxes to steal businesses from one another. the discussion is a mutt. countries should be trying to stay away from tax wars. in any event it's "hide the tax" again as the corporations pass the tax on the consumers, there's only one tax payer. Businesses in high tax rate countries seem to make a profit regardless. Hide the tax fair enough, hiding the tax is understandable for politicians. the Vietnam war was also discussed in similar clarity. mutt discussions

[Bruce_the_vii]

Bob Rae is whining I suppose. As interim leader of the third party that's his job. And it fact it's a reasonable bit of whining. I give him a point for keeping his comments reasonable.

[Curtman]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Curtman Curtman:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Thank God those "tax and spend" Tories aren't in charge of the province.

Maybe you should come back and discuss politics after you grow some new brain cells.
First off, what part of "The Ontario Liberals have given corporate tax cuts of 2-4%, raised taxes on EVERYONE and EVERYTHING else and is subsidizing mega corporations" do you not understand?

Secondly, I didn't vote for any of those assholes pictured.

Third, if you really think Martin is some kind of national fiscal hero, I strongly suggest reading up on his tenure with Canada Steamship Lines.
Then you can see how your hero eroded the tax base and cost Canadian jobs!

One: I don't give a sh*t about Ontario politics.

Two: Martin did what the others could not, and made our economy the envy of the world.

Third: Hey, relax your self. You're frothing at the mouth. It was a joke, and my name isn't "Mikey"

[Curtman]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Like most left-tards, you want to soak the companies of tax dollars and lower those income taxes for people. You fail to realise when you soak companies, they leave, move provinces or fire a ton of people so, what's the personal tax rate on someone making $0?

You probably actually talk like that in real life too, that's the funniest part.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Curtman Curtman:

One: I don't give a sh*t about Ontario politics.

Well ya should cuz this is happening in other provinces as well.

Curtman Curtman:

Two: Martin did what the others could not, and made our economy the envy of the world.

Yep, it's pretty easy to do when you raid pension funds, the EI fund and force property owners to pick up all the slack.

Curtman Curtman:

Third: Hey, relax your self. You're frothing at the mouth. It was a joke, and my name isn't "Mikey"

Sadly, the only joke was having a tax dodger as a Finance Minister!

[OnTheIce]

Curtman Curtman:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Like most left-tards, you want to soak the companies of tax dollars and lower those income taxes for people. You fail to realise when you soak companies, they leave, move provinces or fire a ton of people so, what's the personal tax rate on someone making $0?

You probably actually talk like that in real life too, that's the funniest part.

The only think funny is your financial ineptitude.

[Curtman]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

The only think funny is your financial ineptitude.

And coming from a supporter of a "conservative" government running the largest deficit in the history of the country, I'll take that as a compliment. Thanks.

[CDN_PATRIOT]

PA, don't forget that Paul Martin gutted the Canadian Forces as well. If it wasn't for Stephen Harper, the military would still suck, and we'd have suffered the same fate as parts of Europe in the current financial crisis. The Economic Action Plan was the right thing to do at the right time.

-J.

[andyt]

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

If it wasn't for Stephen Harper, the military would still suck, and we'd have suffered the same fate as parts of Europe in the current financial crisis. The Economic Action Plan was the right thing to do at the right time.

-J.

Would we have suffered the same fate as parts of Europe because our military would still suck, or what are you saying here?

[CDN_PATRIOT]

andyt andyt:

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

If it wasn't for Stephen Harper, the military would still suck, and we'd have suffered the same fate as parts of Europe in the current financial crisis. The Economic Action Plan was the right thing to do at the right time.

-J.

Would we have suffered the same fate as parts of Europe because our military would still suck, or what are you saying here?

Did you do a little too much celebrating last night, Andy? What I said was as clear as day. Read before you respond.

-J.