[-Mario-]

Dayseed Dayseed:

So, is this the movie where Tom Hanks is at Hogwarts and has to take the Mona Lisa and cast it into the Cracks of Doom so the Sith don't get their hands on it?

I'm sorry dayseed... but this is just ignorant!

[Mustang1]

-Mario- -Mario-:

Dayseed Dayseed:

So, is this the movie where Tom Hanks is at Hogwarts and has to take the Mona Lisa and cast it into the Cracks of Doom so the Sith don't get their hands on it?

I'm sorry dayseed... but this is just ignorant!

I’m pretty sure it was meant to be a joke – how did you arrive at “ignorant”?

[PostManPat]

Mustang1 Mustang1:

-Mario- -Mario-:

Dayseed Dayseed:

So, is this the movie where Tom Hanks is at Hogwarts and has to take the Mona Lisa and cast it into the Cracks of Doom so the Sith don't get their hands on it?

I'm sorry dayseed... but this is just ignorant!

I’m pretty sure it was meant to be a joke – how did you arrive at “ignorant”?

I thought it was pretty clever

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

So, is this the movie where Tom Hanks is at Hogwarts and has to take the Mona Lisa and cast it into the Cracks of Doom so the Sith don't get their hands on it?

Didn't he also yell out "Klaatu verata nictoo, ho, ho, ho, look out below"before he cast it into Doom's Crack?

[DerbyX]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Constantinople Constantinople:

Who is right? We shall all see someday.

True. Except that some of us will be in for one Hell of a surprise.

Curious. In our last recent religious exchange Themasta wrote:

$1:

It's too bad that you have bought in to the Protestant version of Hell. The description of Hell as a place of torment is used to scare children into acting the "proper" way. However, denying the existence of something does not make it go away. Bottom line, for me at least, is this. I believe that whatever you believe is what will happen. If you think you fade into non-existence, that's your choice. I for one believe in an afterlife within the framework of Roman Catholicism and work to achieve that goal in my life. All religions are basically the same when studied in depth so it really doesn't matter. Ultimately it is a futile arguement because there is only one way to find out. You go first, drop me a line from the other side.

Now, as far as I know the Catholic hell is the same as the Prodestant hell. An endpoint constant in any discussion of disbelief with a Xtian religious person is the "you will burn in hell" comment which usually signals that a) they have given up trying to convert you (for now), b) You have brought some point up that they cannot deal with or refute logically or c) The final "I told you so in advance so to speak.

Without rehashing a religious war, I don't uderstand how you guys can reconcille an "all loving god" who would cast his child (presumably) to such an eternal fate? I led a (relatively) good life and if that isn't enough for a god who demands only slavish devotion then I don't need or want him.

Consider this: If your god rejects those who know about him but fail to worship him (properly) yet accepts those humans who were never taught about him in the first place (native cultures, children, oriental buddhists, etc) then don't you think we are all better off not ever knowing thereby eliminating any possible chance of damning yourself to hell for all ternity?

The last answer I got from a person of faith was "No, because (his) god wants you to consciously choose him.

My response was "then why did he only "start" Xtianity 2005 YBP in a single tiny location that has to spread ever slow slowly (and bloodily) throught humanity and where did all these other faiths come from then?

[themasta]

DerbyX DerbyX:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Constantinople Constantinople:

Who is right? We shall all see someday.

True. Except that some of us will be in for one Hell of a surprise.

Curious. In our last recent religious exchange Themasta wrote:

$1:

It's too bad that you have bought in to the Protestant version of Hell. The description of Hell as a place of torment is used to scare children into acting the "proper" way. However, denying the existence of something does not make it go away. Bottom line, for me at least, is this. I believe that whatever you believe is what will happen. If you think you fade into non-existence, that's your choice. I for one believe in an afterlife within the framework of Roman Catholicism and work to achieve that goal in my life. All religions are basically the same when studied in depth so it really doesn't matter. Ultimately it is a futile arguement because there is only one way to find out. You go first, drop me a line from the other side.

Now, as far as I know the Catholic hell is the same as the Prodestant hell. An endpoint constant in any discussion of disbelief with a Xtian religious person is the "you will burn in hell" comment which usually signals that a) they have given up trying to convert you (for now), b) You have brought some point up that they cannot deal with or refute logically or c) The final "I told you so in advance so to speak.

Without rehashing a religious war, I don't uderstand how you guys can reconcille an "all loving god" who would cast his child (presumably) to such an eternal fate? I led a (relatively) good life and if that isn't enough for a god who demands only slavish devotion then I don't need or want him.

Consider this: If your god rejects those who know about him but fail to worship him (properly) yet accepts those humans who were never taught about him in the first place (native cultures, children, oriental buddhists, etc) then don't you think we are all better off not ever knowing thereby eliminating any possible chance of damning yourself to hell for all ternity?

The last answer I got from a person of faith was "No, because (his) god wants you to consciously choose him.

My response was "then why did he only "start" Xtianity 2005 YBP in a single tiny location that has to spread ever slow slowly (and bloodily) throught humanity and where did all these other faiths come from then?

"Every time I look at I can't understand. Why you let the things you did get so out of hand. You'd have managed better if you'd had it planned. Why'd you choose such a backward time in such a strange land? If you'd come today you would have reached all nations, it's a shame Israel 4 B.C. had no mass communication..."

[DerbyX]

themasta themasta:

DerbyX DerbyX:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Constantinople Constantinople:

Who is right? We shall all see someday.

True. Except that some of us will be in for one Hell of a surprise.

Curious. In our last recent religious exchange Themasta wrote:

$1:

It's too bad that you have bought in to the Protestant version of Hell. The description of Hell as a place of torment is used to scare children into acting the "proper" way. However, denying the existence of something does not make it go away. Bottom line, for me at least, is this. I believe that whatever you believe is what will happen. If you think you fade into non-existence, that's your choice. I for one believe in an afterlife within the framework of Roman Catholicism and work to achieve that goal in my life. All religions are basically the same when studied in depth so it really doesn't matter. Ultimately it is a futile arguement because there is only one way to find out. You go first, drop me a line from the other side.

Now, as far as I know the Catholic hell is the same as the Prodestant hell. An endpoint constant in any discussion of disbelief with a Xtian religious person is the "you will burn in hell" comment which usually signals that a) they have given up trying to convert you (for now), b) You have brought some point up that they cannot deal with or refute logically or c) The final "I told you so in advance so to speak.

Without rehashing a religious war, I don't uderstand how you guys can reconcille an "all loving god" who would cast his child (presumably) to such an eternal fate? I led a (relatively) good life and if that isn't enough for a god who demands only slavish devotion then I don't need or want him.

Consider this: If your god rejects those who know about him but fail to worship him (properly) yet accepts those humans who were never taught about him in the first place (native cultures, children, oriental buddhists, etc) then don't you think we are all better off not ever knowing thereby eliminating any possible chance of damning yourself to hell for all ternity?

The last answer I got from a person of faith was "No, because (his) god wants you to consciously choose him.

My response was "then why did he only "start" Xtianity 2005 YBP in a single tiny location that has to spread ever slow slowly (and bloodily) throught humanity and where did all these other faiths come from then?

"Every time I look at I can't understand. Why you let the things you did get so out of hand. You'd have managed better if you'd had it planned. Why'd you choose such a backward time in such a strange land? If you'd come today you would have reached all nations, it's a shame Israel 4 B.C. had no mass communication..."

Who are you asking? An omnipotent god should have done better.

[themasta]

DerbyX DerbyX:

themasta themasta:

DerbyX DerbyX:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Constantinople Constantinople:

Who is right? We shall all see someday.

True. Except that some of us will be in for one Hell of a surprise.

Curious. In our last recent religious exchange Themasta wrote:

$1:

It's too bad that you have bought in to the Protestant version of Hell. The description of Hell as a place of torment is used to scare children into acting the "proper" way. However, denying the existence of something does not make it go away. Bottom line, for me at least, is this. I believe that whatever you believe is what will happen. If you think you fade into non-existence, that's your choice. I for one believe in an afterlife within the framework of Roman Catholicism and work to achieve that goal in my life. All religions are basically the same when studied in depth so it really doesn't matter. Ultimately it is a futile arguement because there is only one way to find out. You go first, drop me a line from the other side.

Now, as far as I know the Catholic hell is the same as the Prodestant hell. An endpoint constant in any discussion of disbelief with a Xtian religious person is the "you will burn in hell" comment which usually signals that a) they have given up trying to convert you (for now), b) You have brought some point up that they cannot deal with or refute logically or c) The final "I told you so in advance so to speak.

Without rehashing a religious war, I don't uderstand how you guys can reconcille an "all loving god" who would cast his child (presumably) to such an eternal fate? I led a (relatively) good life and if that isn't enough for a god who demands only slavish devotion then I don't need or want him.

Consider this: If your god rejects those who know about him but fail to worship him (properly) yet accepts those humans who were never taught about him in the first place (native cultures, children, oriental buddhists, etc) then don't you think we are all better off not ever knowing thereby eliminating any possible chance of damning yourself to hell for all ternity?

The last answer I got from a person of faith was "No, because (his) god wants you to consciously choose him.

My response was "then why did he only "start" Xtianity 2005 YBP in a single tiny location that has to spread ever slow slowly (and bloodily) throught humanity and where did all these other faiths come from then?

"Every time I look at I can't understand. Why you let the things you did get so out of hand. You'd have managed better if you'd had it planned. Why'd you choose such a backward time in such a strange land? If you'd come today you would have reached all nations, it's a shame Israel 4 B.C. had no mass communication..."

Who are you asking? An omnipotent god should have done better.

Go get some culture and rent,"Jesus Christ Superstar". My God man, you are too funny.

[DerbyX]

A very insulting reply. If I missed some cultural reference then I am sorry but it may not be as self-evident as you think.

[themasta]

DerbyX DerbyX:

A very insulting reply. If I missed some cultural reference then I am sorry but it may not be as self-evident as you think.

Fair enough.

[Dayseed]

-Mario- -Mario-:

Dayseed Dayseed:

So, is this the movie where Tom Hanks is at Hogwarts and has to take the Mona Lisa and cast it into the Cracks of Doom so the Sith don't get their hands on it?

I'm sorry dayseed... but this is just ignorant!

I'm sorry too Mario, very very sorry....

[Blue_Nose]

themasta themasta:

"Every time I look at I can't understand. Why you let the things you did get so out of hand. You'd have managed better if you'd had it planned. Why'd you choose such a backward time in such a strange land? If you'd come today you would have reached all nations, it's a shame Israel 4 B.C. had no mass communication..."

I played in the pit band for this musical... awesome music.

Best song by far is Gethsemane.... I got chills every night of the show, and still, when I listen to the CD.

[themasta]

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

themasta themasta:

"Every time I look at I can't understand. Why you let the things you did get so out of hand. You'd have managed better if you'd had it planned. Why'd you choose such a backward time in such a strange land? If you'd come today you would have reached all nations, it's a shame Israel 4 B.C. had no mass communication..."

I played in the pit band for this musical... awesome music.

Best song by far is Gethsemane.... I got chills every night of the show, and still, when I listen to the CD.

I'm glad somebody got it. I must say, that's impressive and would have been an awesome experience. What do you play? Myself I played Bassoon until RCM Grade 9 then quit because of university. Sacrifices...
In truth...I've only ever watched the 70's T.V. version.

[Blue_Nose]

Yeah, there's the original soundtrack from the original production (which I have), and the film from '73. The film isn't great, in my opinion, because the music is mixed so low, so you can hear the words more clearly. The music is what makes the production, so it's a shame. You really have to see it live, or be in it, in my case

I played the trombone for ten years, until my second year of university. Our program was the most advanced in NS at the time. I actually commuted to a different high school than I was 'supposed to' go to for their music program. I would have gone into music as a profession if I weren't so good at math and physics, and didn't feel like having a steady, well paying job

[daVinci]

The Roman Catholic Church is one of the world's first and worst oppressors. The Cathars knew the truth and that is why they were brutally exterminated by a Rome-backed crusade in the 13th century. Not only did they wipe out hundreds of thousands of these 'christian heretics', the wealth of their land was plundered and annexed to France. Sad, really.