[Schleihauf]

No. I support mutliculturalism and I believe if people want to make a better life for themselves they should be able to. Every group of people will have its bad apples but banning them from our country wil just fuel their hatred.

[Arctic_Menace]

I find it scary that 11 people think that we should ban Muslims from immigrating. Last I checked, isn't that a form of discrimination?


I strongly urge you all to go to a mosque, get to know one or two Muslim families, hear at least one Muslim service, and then come back.

It's a very enlightening experience. Although the whole women seperation thing I can't get over, even though I understand it...

[grainfedprairieboy]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

I find it scary that 11 people think that we should ban Muslims from immigrating. Last I checked, isn't that a form of discrimination?

Check again. Preserving the Canadian State at the expense of the worlds huddled masses is patriotic and hardly discriminatory.

But lets look at this further.

China has a population of 1.3 Billion. More than 1/2 of those live in abject poverty. As a non-discriminating secular humanist liberal you know in your heart that what is right is for Canada to relieve the suffering of those people and take in say 1% of the population that is 13 million. This will have serious ramifications to Canadian culture but as a liberal you know that relieving human suffering is far more important then any nation. the conflict is you also like Canada the way it currently is and believe Canada Kicks Ass!

Now this could be happening right now as the Chinese government would happily send 13 million to Canada yearly and Canada has both the room and resources to accommodate them.

The question for you is would you take in 13,000,000 Chinese refugees per year?

Yes or No answer please.

[Arctic_Menace]

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The question for you is would you take in 13,000,000 Chinese refugees per year?

Yes or No answer please.

First, I'm gonna say that we were supposed to be talking about Muslims, so asking about Chinese is unfair. But whatever, I'll entertain your attempt to paint me into a corner...



I'm gonna say yes, but under certain conditions(I absolutely love it when Cons try to turn an issue into black and white terms. ).

We take the 13 million Chinese orphans and raise them as proud Canadians whoa re also proud of their heritage.


Plus, it'll be fun to hear people say to you: Tzu ji nen jiang ku sang...

[Tman1]

I'd say yes. Put them all in Hongcouver and the rest of B.C. Mostly Surrey. People crap their pants about the Muslims taking up all the space, what about Chinese?

[Arctic_Menace]

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Check again. Preserving the Canadian State at the expense of the worlds huddled masses is patriotic and hardly discriminatory.

That's almost exactly what Hitler said in reference to the Jews...

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But lets look at this further.

China has a population of 1.3 Billion. More than 1/2 of those live in abject poverty. As a non-discriminating secular humanist liberal you know in your heart that what is right is for Canada to relieve the suffering of those people and take in say 1% of the population that is 13 million. This will have serious ramifications to Canadian culture but as a liberal you know that relieving human suffering is far more important then any nation. the conflict is you also like Canada the way it currently is and believe Canada Kicks Ass!

Last I checked, we were talking about Muslims. So, unless you plan to drop an Imam Chu-Jao Ning on me...

[Numure]

And then Canadians come in barking on us for law 101...

[RUEZ]

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And then Canadians come in barking on us for law 101...

Last time I looked, this forum didn't represent a majority of Canadians.

[Numure]

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And then Canadians come in barking on us for law 101...

Last time I looked, this forum didn't represent a majority of Canadians.

I meant most of you Being we can Officially mention ourselves as Québébcois now, and still be considered a Citizen of Canada.

[icekarma2752]

lets look at the laws in some islamic countries even the "civilized" ones(yes i use that term very loosely)..in iran if a woman..not a man is convicted of adultery she is buried up to the neck and pelted with rocks until dead while premarital sex is punished by flogging..in saudi arabia even minor theft is punished by surgical removal of the left hand..islam is a religion of oppression and savagery and simply has no place in our society..yes...we should ban immigrants that practise islam

[RUEZ]

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And then Canadians come in barking on us for law 101...

Last time I looked, this forum didn't represent a majority of Canadians.

I meant most of you Being we can Officially mention ourselves as Québébcois now, and still be considered a Citizen of Canada.

If you're happy that Quebec has no freedoms than so be it. I'm glad I live in the better part of Canada.

[grainfedprairieboy]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

$1:

The question for you is would you take in 13,000,000 Chinese refugees per year?

Yes or No answer please.

First, I'm gonna say that we were supposed to be talking about Muslims, so asking about Chinese is unfair. But whatever, I'll entertain your attempt to paint me into a corner...



I'm gonna say yes, but under certain conditions(I absolutely love it when Cons try to turn an issue into black and white terms. ).

We take the 13 million Chinese orphans and raise them as proud Canadians whoa re also proud of their heritage.


Plus, it'll be fun to hear people say to you: Tzu ji nen jiang ku sang...

Don't get your panties in a knot.

I am using the example of the Chinese due to the real time problem of mass poverty and because like the Muslims, they think look and act differently then us due to the unique cultures of their own. This is no way implies my culture is either inferior or superior so save your epithets and labels. It is just the culture that is mine and I am comfortable with.

Canada's culture and traditions are a European blend which very from country to country in the EU but has helped in part to give us our own unique identity. Overnight this would be transformed by the influx of 13,000,000 Chinese and change Canada and everything about it. I think this is very noble of you to sacrifice your nation for the good of humanity and I applaud your personal convictions that lead you to that decision.

But understand....I am a real Canadian and do not want my country changed into something unknown. I have swore an oath that I would be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors according to law, forever. So help me God. Wilfully conceding Canada to any ethnicity through immivasion violates my duty.

[Arctic_Menace]

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But understand....I am a real Canadian and do not want my country changed into something unknown. I have swore an oath that I would be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors according to law, forever. So help me God. Wilfully conceding Canada to any ethnicity through immivasion violates my duty.

And yet the pledge says: "This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold, for myself, and for all mankind."

So isn't it a bit hypocritical to be saying: "You're a Muslim? Sorry, you can't get in here because of your religion."?

[Sapper]

Abbas Abbas:

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In a word, No.

In a word, why?

Because Muslims haven't detracted from Canadian society in any substantial way.

So what percentage of the population of Canada can be Muslim before we start to be changed?

Its not relevent, that depends on time. You have to understand that Muslims aren't only of Arab decent, people do convert. Alot of Canadians have coverted and they are Muslim now, so should we put restrictions on them for their faith, even though they are Canadian?

Did the converts know they couldn't have dogs as companions?

[grainfedprairieboy]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

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But understand....I am a real Canadian and do not want my country changed into something unknown. I have swore an oath that I would be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors according to law, forever. So help me God. Wilfully conceding Canada to any ethnicity through immivasion violates my duty.

And yet the pledge says: "This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold, for myself, and for all mankind."

So isn't it a bit hypocritical to be saying: "You're a Muslim? Sorry, you can't get in here because of your religion."?

No it is not hypocritical because it is far more then a religion, it is a way of life that transends any government and supercedes any law of man.

As for the oath, mine is an oath of service I actually swore to the Queen as a soldier and was forced to memorise it.

Yours is something from the Charter or a Captain Canuck comic that doesn't mean squat to me. What the hell are you thinking anyway?