[romanP]

ziggy ziggy:

Start blowing them out of the water so aid ships can arrive,then well talk.

So what do we do when the aid ships arrive and the pirates just hoard all of the food for themselves and kill anyone that tries to take it from them?

This has already happened, there's a little story about it called Blackhawk Down.

[romanP]

ziggy ziggy:

Killing pirates/terrorists will solve the problem,I'll bet money on it,they wont prey on a armed ship and if they do then they get what they get.

Why would you bet money on that? Just a couple of weeks ago, right after some pirates were killed, more showed up and took another ship hostage. That's a pretty good demonstration of how things will go with a "kill all of the pirates" strategy. It'll be about as effective as the war on drugs... similar to trying to kill a tree by ripping off all of its leaves.

There is a reason these pirates have increased their attacks recently, and it has a lot to do with the fact that Somalia has no way to police its own people, nevermind govern them. Until that problem is fixed, there's going to be more pirates no matter how many get killed.

[RUEZ]

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

Somali pirates aren't your run of the mill terrorists.

So far, Seals, Israelis, China, India, etc piracy has still increased by 200% since this time last year.

The pirates aren't looking for confrontation, they employ hit and run tactics. They are business men with guns.

And I misunderstand why all the western venom against pirates. The US was using privateers to rub British merchant and trade vessels in the 1700 and 1800s. "Privateers". Quite a few American aristocrats became wealthy from this practice that the US government fully backed. Piracy, theft and kidnapping, you bet your ass!

I see Somali piracy as a bit of raw justice. We've been raping Africa for some 500 years, our acestors didn't ask the Congolese "want to trade that rubber?”, No, no, no, We took it from them, whether they liked it or not. Now, well....pirates are taking too...

We didn’t ask them if they wanted our toxic waste in their waters either “mind if we dump those toxic chemicals off your shoreline?”, no questions, we just did it.

I see it as a fair exchange.


Just looking at it from the perspective of the underdog pirates.

I hope I'm reading this wrong but it looks like you're defending this scum?

[ziggy]

romanP romanP:

ziggy ziggy:

Start blowing them out of the water so aid ships can arrive,then well talk.

So what do we do when the aid ships arrive and the pirates just hoard all of the food for themselves and kill anyone that tries to take it from them?

This has already happened, there's a little story about it called Blackhawk Down.

Sure and it's a movie,this is real life.
These arent American militery they are taking as hostages,there just people trying to make a living,try and see the difference here if you can.

Blow them out of the water,one at a time and document and publish the whole scene.

[bootlegga]

Ask the Israelis how well killing people does in quelling insurgencies. Last time I checked, the Palestinians/Hezbollah/Hamas haven't disappeared or stopped their conflict with Israel.

No, short of nuking Somali and killing every single person there, military intervention won't stop this. All killing someone does is create more people who hate you. I wouldn't want to be on the next American ship captured, because all of them will probably have their throats slit.

Once Somalis can get by on fishing, agriculture or industry again, the vast majority of this will stop. Organized crime and terrorists might continue in a limited fashion, but the vast majority of pirates there now are opportunists looking for a way to make a buck. Like I said, look at the Strait of Malacca, which used to be the worst spot on the planet for piracy.

[romanP]

ziggy ziggy:

romanP romanP:

ziggy ziggy:

Start blowing them out of the water so aid ships can arrive,then well talk.

So what do we do when the aid ships arrive and the pirates just hoard all of the food for themselves and kill anyone that tries to take it from them?

This has already happened, there's a little story about it called Blackhawk Down.

Sure and it's a movie,this is real life.

It's a movie based on a book written by one of the surviving soldiers of the blackhawk that went down and ended up with two of its dead crew being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu. Is that real enough for you?

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Blow them out of the water,one at a time and document and publish the whole scene.

Yes, let's also build a camp where we'll put all Somalians, tattoo identification numbers on their bodies and then shove them into ovens alive. Oh wait, someone already tried that one....

[2Cdo]

Actually romanP the book was written by a civilian who had never served in the US Army and based his book on interviews conducted with troops who did serve in Somalia.

[ziggy]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Actually romanP the book was written by a civilian who had never served in the US Army and based his book on interviews conducted with troops who did serve in Somalia.

Ya,I thought I would let him stew for awhile.

[2Cdo]

ziggy ziggy:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Actually romanP the book was written by a civilian who had never served in the US Army and based his book on interviews conducted with troops who did serve in Somalia.

Ya,I thought I would let him stew for awhile.

As well the Somalia mission was never a "kill them all" mission. It was about removing the warlords and allowing the country to move towards a stable environment.

[romanP]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Actually romanP the book was written by a civilian who had never served in the US Army and based his book on interviews conducted with troops who did serve in Somalia.

Oh, okay. So the troops didn't actually land in Somalia and get dragged through the streets when they were dead, nevermind that it ended up on news networks around the world. Good thing you got that minute, unimportant detail cleared up.

[2Cdo]

romanP romanP:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Actually romanP the book was written by a civilian who had never served in the US Army and based his book on interviews conducted with troops who did serve in Somalia.

Oh, okay. So the troops didn't actually land in Somalia and get dragged through the streets when they were dead, nevermind that it ended up on news networks around the world. Good thing you got that minute, unimportant detail cleared up.

Wow, rolly eyes and everything because I corrected a glaring error in your post politely. Also where did I say troops did not land in Somalia or state that dead troops were not dragged through the streets?

Try to be polite to people and someone with an attitude jumps on you, oh well. Judging by your posts I'll dismiss you to the "haven't got a clue" bin.