[-Mario-]

I might as well post it myself before some does with their own twisted spin. Here it is. Verbatum the way I got it.

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According to this EMail (.pdf), this one starts @ Victoria BC Cenotaph

TROOPS OUT NOW! TAKE TO THE STREETS ON THE NORTH AMERICAN DAY OF
ACTION AGAINST WAR!
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Bush out of Baghdad! Canada Out of Kandahar! Join the Resistance!
Rally and March in Downtown Victoria
Date: Sunday, October 28th
Time: 1 pm
Place: Departure from the Cenotaph in front of the BC Legislature

Featuring:
Malalai Joya - Afghan Women’s Rights Activist and Member of Parliament
Francisco Juarez – Military Families Speak Out
The Canada Out of Afghanistan Campaign
UVIC Students Against War
…and many more!

…followed by an evening of resistance with Malalai Joya!

Check below for details on the Victoria demonstration, info on how you can get involved, an
announcement for the evening event with Malalai Joya, and some general material on the war in
Afghanistan.
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OCT. 28: RESISTANCE IN CANADA, RESISTANCE IN AFGHANISTAN

Cities across North America will take to the streets the weekend of October 27/28 to demand the end of war and occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan. In Canada, Harper’s aggressive military intervention is coming under fire, and demands to bring the troops home now are growing louder each day. In Afghanistan, activist and Parliamentarian Malalai Joya was subjected to death threats and suspended from a Parliament after speaking out against a government run by warlords.

ON OCTOBER 28 IN VICTORIA, MALALAI JOYA WILL JOIN DEMONSTRATORS IN VICTORIA TO DEMAND AN END TO WAR AND OCCUPATION!

Tell Harper, Hillier and the Government of Canada to bring the troops home now!

* Bring placards, banners, puppets, noisemakers and drums! *

Organized by the Canada Out of Afghanistan Campaign
www.canadaoutofafghansitan.ca

Organized and endorsed by:
Council of Canadians
Greater Victoria Seniors
International Socialists
Military Communities Speak Out
Raging Grannies
UVIC Students Against War
Victoria Peace Coalition
War Resisters Support Campaign
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OCT 28: HOW YOU CAN BE INVOLVED!

We meet every Monday at 7 pm in the UVIC Student Union Building basement, and everyone is welcome. We are also always looking for people to pitch in by postering, handing out leaflets, and spreading the word! On the day of the rally, we will need people to walk with the banner, hand out flyers, and holler slogans! For more information or to let us know that you’ll be attending our meetings, write to us at: [email protected].

To add your organization to the list of groups endorsing the Victoria demonstration, write us a note at:
[email protected]
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AN EVENING OF RESISTANCE WITH MALALAI JOYA
A post-rally event!

Date: October 28
Time: 7 pm
Place: David Lam Auditorium, University of Victoria

Co-sponsored by:
Armed with Understanding (UVIC Student Society)
Canada Out of Afghanistan Campaign
Greater Victoria Seniors
UVIC Students Against War
Victoria Coalition for Survivors of Torture
Victoria Peace Coalition
Victoria Public Interest Research Group
For more information on Malalai Joya:
http://www.malalaijoya.com
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A CALL FROM THE CANADIAN PEACE ALLIANCE AND THE COLLECTIF ECHEC A LA GUERRE

The war in Afghanistan is getting worse day by day. The Government of Canada and its NATO allies tell us that security and reconstruction are improving and that the battle for the hearts and minds of the Afghan people is being won by the west. In reality the situation is much more dire.

Reconstruction has been proven to be a smokescreen and the resistance to the occupation is growing. Violence increases every month that our soldiers remain in Kanadhar.

It is time to stop the bloodshed - not in 2009 as our politicians suggest - but now. The Canadian Peace Alliance and Collectif Échec à la guerre call on the people of Canada and Quebec to demonstrate this October 27, 2007 and call for the troops to be brought home.

On that day people from Canada and the United States will be marching to end war. Our friends in the US have put out a call for events to end the Iraq war on same date; so we will be jointly marching to end the violence that our governments are intent on continuing.

The state of reconstruction in Kandahar is a shambles. The Senlis Council recently released a report that investigated the reconstruction claims by the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA). The Senlis Council found little of the promised reconstruction in Kandahar. The Afghan people are starving just outside the gates of the Canadian base. Their local hospitals have no medicine or equipment despite promises of money from CIDA. These failures, coupled with the rise in civilian casualties, have resulted in more people joining the resistance.

And what has been accomplished? Canadians have once again lost the Panjwai district of Kandahar after fighting four separate battles to hold it and being pushed off of that land again and again. After more than 18 months of fighting in the south which has killed hundreds of civilians and dozens of Canadian soldiers, the fight is still on for the same patch of land that was "secured" more than a year ago.

How many more will die on both sides to keep taking and retaking a spot of land?

The poppy trade is booming in Afghanistan with a record crop worth more than $3 billion USD this year. The UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) report showed a 35 per cent increase in opium production from a year ago. This will only get worse the longer NATO stays in Afghanistan. The UNODC argues that more control from the state of Afghanistan will reduce opium production. More than 60 percent of the elected members of the Afghan parliament are connected to warlords and drug barons. To increase the control of the drug warlords in the opium producing areas will not result in a decrease in opium production.

The irony is that opium production had been eradicated by 2001. This increase in production is a direct result of the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan.

The head of the Army in the UK, General Sir Richard Dannatt stated that the war in Afghanistan could go on for a generation. Thousands more civilians and soldiers will die and the resistance to the NATO occupation will grow. It is time to end this war.

On October 27 people in Canada and the US will be marching to call for peace in Iraq and Afghanistan. Thousands will march in a pan-Canadian day of action. Join us!

Out of Afghanistan - Out of Iraq
Harper and Bush Bring the Troops back!
http://www.acp-cpa.ca/
http://www.acp-cpa.ca/en/OCT27.htm

[HyperionTheEvil]

I believe the appropriate answer would be no...


Merely more Liberal apeasement propoganda.

Ill sum thier theory up for those who dont want to wade through thier drivel

Canada = Bad
Terrorists = good

[Canadian_Mind]

No. It's;
Canada = Bad
Terrorist = Indifferent

[sasquatch2]

Nah........it's just a buch of morons who don't realize the COLD WAR IS OVER AND THEIR SIDE LOST.

It was established back in the 60's, when the anti-Viet Nam thing and BAN THE BOMB demonstrations that the vast majority were just students out for a lark. Many even admitted that.

[BartSimpson]

Hey, if the International Socialists are supporting it then it must be good, right?

[ridenrain]

They have the right to protest, and because their socialists, they should understand the meaning of the definition "Usefull Idiots", because they are a working example.

I love the irony of :
Malalai Joya - Afghan Women’s Rights Activist and Member of Parliament.
Was she an MP during the taliban regime? How exactly can she have any credability when she owes her profession, her rights and probably her life to the fact that NATO did invade.

[ridenrain]

Speaking of timing:

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A new poll of nearly 1,600 Afghans shows the majority feel safer than they did five years ago, and approve of the direction their country is taking, thanks to the presence of international security forces from countries such as Canada.

Results from the Environics Research poll, conducted in partnership with the CBC, show 60 per cent of Afghans surveyed believe the presence of foreign troops has been good for their country.

As well, 51 per cent said they feel their country is headed in the right direction, compared to 28 per cent who responded that it's headed in the wrong direction. The remaining interviewees saw no change or didn't know.


Warrant Officer Sean Chase of the Provincial Reconstruction Team hands out "Izzy" dolls to 15 children from one family. They came with their father to the Village Medical Outreach at Forward Operating Base Martello.
(Captain Dave Muralt/Department of National Defence)
Most Afghans said they believe their lives are better than they were five years ago, citing increased security, as well as better roads and schools because of reconstruction efforts. Those who feel they are worse off say they don't feel safe in the face of continuing violence.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/10/1 ... -poll.html

perhaps MP Malalai Joya represents the taliban after all.

[Chumley]

Legal? Yes.
Justifiable? No.

[Xort]

Please don't, our work isn't done, we haven't finished what we set out to do. People that have supported our efforts will very likely be murdered if we pull out. People working to better their nation are in need of our help.

The military is willing, and our efforts are paying off.

Protest if you like, but don't forget the people of Afghanistan didn't have that right.

[sasquatch2]

The crack heads could not care less if innocent people are murdered by bandits masquerading as religious freedom fighters. Remember these freaks cheered 911.

[Streaker]

And yet Canadians are dying, propping up an Afghan government which wants to cut a deal with the Taliban.

[Scape]

I voted yes insofar that they have the right to voice their concerns. I wouldn't support the premise as confusing the issue with US/Bush/Iraq does not serve the platform of conscientious dissent.

[ridenrain]

Streaker Streaker:

And yet Canadians are dying, propping up an Afghan government which wants to cut a deal with the Taliban.

"This is so unfair."
I don't like it but it's not uncommon for insurgencys to end by negotiation. Ireland would be a good example. It's unrealistic to imagine that the forces of good will relentlessly hunt down the forces of evil untill they all are killed.

If the Afghan governmant can split and disarm assorted tribes and gangs from Taliban control, they drive splinters and weaken the Taliban. The Taliban then must worry and act against tribes they feel are drifting away, and that often drives people even farther away.

By offering peace, protection and a prosperous life for their children, the Afghan government has a carrot that the taliban can't compete with.

[Scape]

So the big march was today and the reports I saw on both CTV and the CBC barley covered it. Even Indymedia coverage seem lax. Lots of protests on the web but when it demands people come out on the street and be seen... well as the saying goes peace sell but who's buyin?